<p>In your opninion</p>
<li><p>Which school has more prestige?</p></li>
<li><p>Which school has a better business program?</p></li>
<li><p>Overall, which out of the 3 would you attend?</p></li>
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<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I would say MI, hands down (for all three). Though I must warn you I am biased and I don't know a lot about the other ones. My mom went to the business school at U of M and has done extremely well in the accounting field. She has been working for the accounting firm Deloitte and Touche since almost straight out of school and was chair of the MACPA (Michigan Association of CPAs) a few years ago. So.....yeah. Definately MI. Those are my two cents.</p>
<p>I'd say UM has the most prestige. Here in California, USC might have more prestige, just b/c USC is in Ca! </p>
<p>Boston College has prestige in the East coast, but not so much so in Ca.</p>
<p>UM is pretty well known throughout the country because of its strong academics and because it is a top public school.</p>
<p>Out of the three, I would attend UM, though I only applied to BC out of those.</p>
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<li><p>I think UMich does, but personally I have a hard time assigning prestige to any public institution. If I came accross a USC and UM graduate, I'd be more interested in the USC student.</p></li>
<li><p>USC's Marshall has power in Southern California. It reigns LA, and you see proud alums driving around in their Mercedes/BMW with their Marshall license plate.</p></li>
<li><p>USC or Boston College. Again, I have something against Public schools.</p></li>
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<p>1) UMich is harder to get into.. hence people think it's more prestigious.. it's more popular in the midwest / east. USC is great but it's like a niche at So Cal</p>
<p>2) U Mich's business is ranked almost the same as USC's Marshall. </p>
<p>3) I'd go to USC b/c I love private schools.. I learn better with 15/1 student-faculty ratio instead of 100/1. Plus, liek0806 is right, USC Marshall's Tojan Family has power and connection all around the United States. I personally think kids have more fun @ USC.</p>
<p>liek0806, what do you have against public schools? Just curious. Is it the faculty-to-student ratio?</p>
<p>liek0806,</p>
<p>I came from Hong Kong and had lived in the east, midwest, and SF before moving to LA four years ago.</p>
<p>From what I see, people living in LA have very inflated view of USC but once you are outside the LA bubble, USC's "prestige" diminishes very quickly. One thing to remember is less than a decade ago, USC was ranked outside top 40, if I am not mistaken. It's gonna take a while for others in other parts of the country to change their perception about USC. By the way, I didn't see many USC license plates even in NoCal (SF) when I lived there. What you described is very much a LA thing.</p>
<p>USC's Marshall is below UMich as far as ug biz ranking goes. Marshall MBA is ranked out of top-25. According to nne of the MBA guides, recruiters complain that USC's grads look too much like "frat boys" (lacking professionalism). Their MBA placement (also included in that guide) is less impressive than Michigan.</p>
<p>i would definitely say BC is the most prestiguous..at least where i'm from thats what people think...mich and usc are seen as too much of party schools around here</p>
<p>Stressed out, I don't know where you get your information that UMich business is ranked equivalent to USC's or that UMich's student to faculty ratio is like 100/1. In fact, it's actually the 15/1 that you claim you learn so much better with. It's true USC is smaller, but USC has one of the largest undergraduate student body for a private college.</p>
<p>According to USNews:</p>
<p>UMich
Undergraduate student body: 25,467
Student-to-faculty ratio: 15/1
Classes with fewer than 20 students: 43%
Number of faculty:2390 full time, 597 part time </p>
<p>USC
Undergraduate student body: 16,897
Student-to-faculty ratio: 10/1
Classes with fewer than 20 students: 63%
Number of faculty: 1495 full time, 984 part time </p>
<p>BC
Undergraduate student body: 9,019
Student-to-faculty ratio: 13/1
Classes with fewer than 20 students: 38%
Number of faculty: 679 full time, 542 part time </p>
<p>I applied to all three, and I'm attending UMich next year. </p>
<p>1) UMich is more prestigous, one of the best public schools in the nation and it's ranked higher the both USC/BC according to USNews. Even then, many arguments can be ranked for UMich to be ranked even higher (around top 10): </p>
<p>Quoted from Alexandre's post:
There are several educators who rank universities, and most of them rank Michigan among the top 15 undergraduate institutions in the nation, uncluding the USNWR. That's right Mnozzi, Educators have their say in the USNWR, in the Peer Assessment Score, where Michigan has been ranked between #7 and #12 for the last 20 years. Edward Fiske is another educator who ranks Michigan among the very best, making it one of just 20 or so research universities that gets the ***** academic ranking. Gerhard Casper (a Yale educated scholar, ex-dean of the Chicago Law School and president of Stanford University from 1990-2000) never ranked universities, but he had that to say:</p>
<p>2) UMich's business is ranked MUCH higher then USC's Marshall, it's ranked #3 according to USNews for undergrad business program, #11 according USNews for MBA. According to BusinessWeek, UMich ranked #6 for undergraduate and #5 for MBA. On the other hand both BC/USC are consistently ranked outside of the top 20 for the most part</p>
<p>3) Like I said, I've already decided on attending UMich</p>
<p>Michigan (best in all 3 catagories)
USC/BC (more regionally known)</p>
<p>Here's my take:</p>
<p>First off, all 3 schools are excellent institutions. You can't go wrong wherever you decide to go.</p>
<p>In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a USC student so I will have the most knowledge about that school. Sam Lee has a point when he says that
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"It's gonna take a while for others in other parts of the country to change their perception about USC"
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Reputations are slow to change, and I've run into people who still think that USC is a sports/party school and know nothing of the strong academics. This perception will take a while to shake. This is balanced by the fact that USC is rapidly improving and is on the rise (this attracted me to the school more than anything else). Each year the SAT scores leap higher and higher, and this should continue for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>Michigan's business program is indeed ranked higher, but the difference isn't all that big. IIRC, USC was 9th in the USNews and Michigan is 3rd. No huge difference there. In the BusinessWeek publication, the gap is higher but USC's rank is also calculated from errant information (There's a thread on CC about this, but the search index is disabled so I can't link it here. The error had to do with student-faculty ratio.) Also, from my experience a huge part of success in Business is connections. USC excels in this area.</p>
<p>I will also add that USC has an outstanding social atmosphere. Not to take away from Michigan or BC, but I think USC is tops in this category.</p>
<p>About the other schools. Coming from the Bay Area, I recognized the name Boston College (which is a good thing, I actually hadn't heard of UM until I came to this forum, believe it or not). First thing that pops into my head is that it is religiously affiliated, with good academics, and it is in the fantastic city of Boston. I don’t know too much about Michigan, but it’s clear to me from reading this forum that it is very highly regarded.</p>
<p>In summary:</p>
<p>Academics/Prestige:
1. Michigan
2. BC/USC</p>
<p>Social Atmosphere:
1. USC
2. Michigan
3. BC</p>
<p>Location:
1. BC
2. Michigan
3. USC (it’s too sunny for me!)</p>
<p>Networking/Connections:
1. USC
2. Michigan
3. BC </p>
<p>That's my best effort from my admittedly biased point of view.</p>
<p>USC over Michigan. (32-18)</p>
<p>Also coming from a very biased point of view, I would choose BC (because I go there). All three are within the top 35 schools nationally - so don't stress out about the differences. (I have a friend who chose a school over another simply because it was ranked 7 spots ahead, and she is absolutely miserable...).</p>
<p>I also applied and was admitted to USC. The school is very well renowned on the West Coast and of course the campus is beautiful. However, I liked BC better in that it was smaller and seemed more intimate. BC CSOM (Carroll School of Management) is very well respected in the Northeast...which is where I ultimately saw myself living, as opposed to Southern California. Nevertheless, both schools are well-regarded nationally...</p>
<p>If you happened to be admitted into the honors program at BC, please consider accepting the offer. I am in the program and it is EXCELLENT. Not only very well regarded among employers and possessing devoted alumni, the program (which only enrolls 30 students a year - each CSOM class has 500 total) is very intimate, and it allows students to have the very best professors from the get-go, small classes (my first semester of freshman year, i had 5 classes of sizes 80, 30, 15, 10, 10), and the students really become best friends. Although everyone's extremely intelligent, it's not cutthroat by any means (on the contrary, I believe that USC's Marshall School grades on a 2.8 forced curve).</p>
<p>And don't forget about Boston, the ultimate college town. Sports at BC aren't quite that of USC or Michigan (especially football), but our games do sell out and all the students go and have a great time. It's definitely smaller than the other two, but I feel like my experience has been as good as any.</p>
<p>Marshall has raised the grade curve to 3.0 for core business classes, 3.3 for upper division electives. That change took effect this current semester. Also, i wouldn't say that Marshall's classes are "cutthroat" - it's just a very competitive program (which I think is a great strength).</p>