<p>it seems there are some decently intelligent people on this web board. And some with good knowledge about USC's Marshall school of business (shyboy), undergrad not grad. but i want to know what evrybody thinks about Marshall's rep. particularly in the working world. fire away.</p>
<p>To start, I've read about a 'C' curve, which students complain about. In the working world, some employers prefer UCLA grads to USC grads; these are stuff i've read and still remember from old posts; if you search in the old forum; i'm sure you'll find more about this and other stuff in detail
Pretty random general stuff to start you off before you find out more from others :)</p>
<p>so how about marshall's rep? im not really concerned about ucla, but i dont see how ucla econ grads would be more respected in the working world than usc bizadmin grads.</p>
<p>In the recent Business Week rankings of graduate business schools, Marshall came in 27th. UCLA's Anderson school came in 14th. The top five were Northwestern's Kellogg, U of Chicago, Penn's Wharton, Stanford & Harvard.</p>
<p>again,no grad pease just undergrad. also, rankings dont really mean ish to me. im concerned about rep not numbers.</p>
<p>Okay, undergrad rep: it's good but not great. Above average, but nothing exceptional.</p>
<p>I cannot say much about the program outside of California except that some major companies (e.g. Goldman Sachs) recruit at USC. Inside California, especially Southern California, you cant do much better. Perhaps the only majors for Business that are a bit more respected (in Southern California) are Haas and perhaps Stanford Econ. UCLA's Bizecon and USC's Bus Admin are both roughly equal. I know you dont care about rankings but US News ranks the undergrad program pretty high nationally and number 2 in California. I participated in Recruitment at USC last year and got to know many of the Marshall undergrads. Many high paying jobs come to get them. </p>
<p>A bit of a warning though; people on this board tend to hate California schools with the possible exception of Stanford and Caltech. They cling to the ancient greatness of the Ivy League and refuse to admit that great schools/programs are no longer are concentrated in the North East. For some reason I think this mindset changed a bit once they implemented the new format of the website so is not as dominant as it used to be. Go figure!</p>
<p>Shyboy, you have talked of going to UCLA and USC. What is your job? Did you get a great, high paying one? Was it more due to UCLA or USC? How did it shake out when you interviewed and jobs compared the schools? Did you actually go to Goldman Sachs which is my dream?</p>
<p>Brady, while I really dont want to put out there too many specifics on my work life, I will say that I am doing quite well working in finance at a large company that everyone has heard of. I cannot say one degree helped me more than another in my job search but I will say that employers pretty much respected the fact that I attended (and did well in) two top notch schools. Perhaps a bit more weight was placed on USC because it is where I got my MA. Of course, some interviewers liked USC better and some liked UCLA better because most of them attended one or the other. It was the darn USC students that gave me a hard time walking around campus with UCLA jerseys and stuff. ;) As far as Goldman Sachs goes, it is hard to get a job there no matter what school you go to. Personally, I love life too much to actually want to work so many hours. If you want to work in investment banking, be prepared to get old (but rich) fast.</p>
<p>Hey, you mentioned searching the old forum, i am curious how you do that? ive been trying to do so but i dont know how. thanks</p>
<p><a href="http://www.collegeconfidential.com/discus%5B/url%5D">www.collegeconfidential.com/discus</a></p>
<p>yes, shyboy, thank you, that is exactly what i wanted to hear</p>
<p>I'm wondering (could not find a clear answer in the old forums): How difficult is it to study business at USC, can you maintain a good gpa? Are the students competitive?</p>
<p>Students at USC often complain about the curve of the major (around B-). Also, it is one of the most difficult majors at USC to actually enter but I hear students say that it is not impossible to get in. Because of the curve, you should get a good GPA if you are brighter than the average Business student.</p>
<p>the people on this board hate cali b/c their jealous. suckers. go trojans.</p>
<p>as for me, i dont plan on leaving beautiful sunny so cal anytime soon.</p>
<p>from what i understand, there is no better bizadmin program better than marshall in so cal, besides stanford and haas. and ucla's bizecon is on par. i didnt even know ucla had bizecon. what is bizecon? how does it compare to marshall's bizadmin.</p>
<p>It helps if you know the difference between the proper use of a noun and verb as opposed to an adjective. Case in point: "their jealous" should obviously be "they're jealous" -- Mr. Trojan Man, perhaps you should "suck" some grammar, syntax and spelling before journeying north of Santa Barbara and east of the Sierra Nevadas.</p>
<p>MrTrojanMan, Bizecon stands for Business Economics. It is UCLAs version of an undergrad business program. Although it is not technically a business program, still almost the exact same companies who recruit at UCLA also recruit at USC. Some econ students at UCLA and USC complain that companies only grant interviews if you are bizecon or bizadmin respectively. Many USC students also were admitted to UCLA but chose USC because they did not want to major in bizecon. I got my undergraduate degree in Bizecon and chose it over Business Administration at both Berkeley and USC (obviously I was accepted to both). I am glad I did but to each his own. After you get your first or second job, experience begins to continue to become more important than what degree(s) you have. </p>
<p>As far as the Business Economics degree goes, it is somewhat of a hybrid degree that focuses on both economics and business. You get to take classes at the Anderson school in areas like finance, operations research, and accounting. Also, you get to take classes from the econ department set aside for bizecon students that deal with business areas such as finance, investment markets, and entrepreneurship. </p>
<p>For more information on bizecon see:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.econ.ucla.edu/bizecon/%5B/url%5D">http://www.econ.ucla.edu/bizecon/</a></p>
<p>Oh yeah, Southern California is the best place on the planet!!! I plan to die here!</p>
<p>oooouuuccchhh, my feelings. collegeparent youre so smart, it hurts. but a little bitter. i know it sucks being old, cold, lonely, and searching the net for friends. lest stop fighting and be friends. or atleast ignore each other. i was just kidding, in the first place. anyways, back to the point...</p>
<p>im minoring in econ right now addition to my bizadmin program, should i drop it? i only need 3 extra classes at this point, is it worth it? i talked to a recruiter form houlihan lockey howard zoukin. he said i should just focus on bizadmin, but it wouldnt hurt to minor in econ.</p>
<p>and it is true that recruiters favor biz degrees over econ degrees. and when i mean econ degrees i dont mean stanford/haas. im glad i transfered.</p>
<p>MrTrojanMan, the great thing about USC is the ease of double majoring and minoring ha? Personally, I can tell you that minoring in econ definitely will not hurt youit can only help. Now, I am not sure how much it will help you though so its on you. </p>
<p>Do recruiters look more favorably at bizadmin degrees? Let me give you a stupid little story. I was unable to submit my resume through InterviewTRAK for some company I dont remember. The reason was because they only wanted business majors. The weird thing is that they were at UCLA recruiting for only BizEcon majors and I have a degree from UCLA in Bizecon!!! That was strange! That was the only problem Ive ever personally encountered. When in doubt, and assuming you like business better than econ, Id go for the business degree. Im sure it will open more doors. After campus recruiting however, if you look for jobs in the classifieds, you will find that companies ask for business, finance, economics, or equivalent degree. It really doesnt matter that much. Still, Id go for the business degree. </p>
<p>Oh yeah, those recruiters at Houlihan WARNING!!! They are gonna attack you on the interview! They are going to try hard to get under your skin. They are going to put so much pressure on you that you may want to give up. They say that the reason for this is because they want to see if you can take the pressure because working there is super high stress and long hours. Just be prepared because I sure wasnt!</p>
<p>Would Somebody at UCSB with an Accounting and Econ Decgree Graduating witha 3.9 be able to get a job at a presitgious investment bank in your opinion shyboy?</p>