<p>Although USMA is my 1st college choice, followed by uber liberal schools, I doubt I'll get accepted. So what is the protocol for USMAPS?</p>
<p>you cant be qualified academically to go to usmaps. you are selected to go there and do not apply. most people who go there are either soldiers or recruited athletes.</p>
<p>Make sure you let your MALO know that you would be open to this option. And keep updating your file. Any honors or test score improvements can make a difference. And don't forget about ROTC. Good luck!</p>
<p>dont forget about civil prep either, there are 22 of us here at Marion Military that are sponsored by west point...again, just make sure that you are open to all of these options</p>
<p>dang, 22 of you at marion? i think we have somehting like 8 or nine here. how is it at marion?</p>
<p>well the facilities pretty much suck, but most of the people make up for it...it hasnt been hard or anything, we got crested pretty quickly and most of us have at least some rank now so alot of people go on leave on weekends</p>
<p>how is it there?</p>
<p>nmmi aint to bad, we dont get rank until next semester, however we can still leave post on the weekends. the barracks and campus are pretty nice. still cant wait to go to west point though...</p>
<p>what is civil prep?
And I have good extracaliculars but its just my grades. Do they average the 2 semesters or is it just the last semester?</p>
<p>I'm going to jump in here regarding civil prep since Astrodude is probably busy with mandatory study hall at this time of the evening...and should not be on college confidential right now. ;)</p>
<p>Civil prep is another way to get into West Point. You cannot apply for civil prep just like you can't apply for USMAPS, the admissions officers recommend potential candidates for civil prep.</p>
<p>Each year the West Point Association of Graduates (AOG) selects approximately 60 candidates to be part of the West Point Preparatory Scholarship Program (WPPSP). The AOG offers a partial scholarship for these candidates to attend one of four military junior colleges (there were four choices for this year, I can't speak for the future). If they get good grades, pass the fitness test again, and get a nomination, they most likely will be able to attend West Point the next year.</p>
<p>Excerpts from the letter my son received:
"The WPPSP is a program that provides partial scholarships for one year of post high school work to highly motivated, fully qualified candidates who just missed being admitted to West Point."
"If you participate in the WPPSP you will be in a unique category. Basically you will not be competing against candidates for next year's entering class. Your goal will be to convince the USMA Admissions Committee that you can do well in a rigorous college curriculum. Although each candidate in the program will be evaluated individually next spring, your chances of being offered admission to West Point in 2007 are excellent. We cannot guarantee this because you have to perform well throughout the scholarship year. However, over the past 26 years, more than 85% of the candidates completing the preparatory year in this program have been offered admission."</p>
<p>For this year the choices of military junior colleges were: Marion Military Institute in Marion, Alabama; New Mexico Military Institute, in Roswell, NM; Wentworth Military Academy in Lexington, Missouri; and Georgia Military College in Milledgeville, Georgia.</p>
<p>S is a Plebe (class of 2010) spent last year at NMMI as part of the civil prep program. HE was in a very competitive district, and was shy on atheletics, good on academics. </p>
<p>I think WA mom has the facts, but I just want to add some testimonial to the postives of the program. First, I thought my son was 'too good' to go to NMMI and really thought he should give up on West Point and go to his great civilian college. He was adamant about WP, so off he went. It was a great year of physical prep, maturity prep and NMMI will certainly add to the rich fabric of his life. So if the opporunity is there for civil prep--and WP is really your goal, it is a no brainer.</p>
<p>I do want to second the comments about tell your MALO, Admissions Officer that you are open to civil prep and USMAPS, ...they are good options and will empahsize your desire for WP</p>
<p>My son has only been at NMMI for 2 months now, but I have to say I see it as a positive too. Of course he was disappointed not to get into the class of 2010, but this year will give him an advantage when he gets to West Point. I think he will have a much easier transition next year than he would have coming straight from high school.</p>
<p>To SteslaS...if West Point is your first choice, go for it! Do your best, turn in everything early, and keep updating your file as you receive new awards, etc. If you truly want to go there but don't get in the first time you apply, try again. The admissions committee likes determination and there are some cadets that applied 2, or even 3 times, before they got in. Rty456 is right, make sure the MALO and Admissions know you are open to the prep school if it is offered. Good luck!</p>
<p>Thanks for all th feedback. I don't know if I have a profile open, I sent them a letter when I was in the 5th grade, don't know if they opened one. Talked to some Laison officer who was less then accomodating.</p>
<p>Prep school is not a difficult experience but at NMMI, at least, you will get you use to:
1. No sleep
2. Keeping your mouth shut
3. Watching old cadets screw up marching
4. Rifle drill
5. Haveing your life dictated to you
6. Taking orders from 15 year old kids
7. Poor leadership</p>
<p>It will be better eventualy. But for now life at NMMI kind of sucks. Oh well one more step to WP. I also know that eventualy it will be a benifitial program. But you can tell me that later.</p>
<p>Lol, I know most of those already but can never get over 6-7 , usually those are intertwined. Sometimes I just want to take charge =/</p>
<p>i think frijoles summed up marion pretty perfectly. it became a state school recently though, so the money is beginning to flow in and it will probably have much nicer facilities in a few years.</p>
<p>....and frijoles, you better save me a few taco's wednesday night!</p>
<p>i promise nothing</p>
<p>As a parent of a child a Marion I couldn't be happier with his experience to date at Marion. I agree with Frijoles that the physical plant wasn't all that it could be. It certainly is not West Point, the Air Force Academy or even the Country Club in Annapolis. On the other hand, I wouldn't judge any college by its bricks and sticks. What impressed me about Marion was the people. The faculty has been very proactive since the welcoming party. They are attentive, smart and appear to be doing a great job with our kids. I can honestly say that it appears to me that they want our kids to succeed and are willing to take the extra steps to help insure that they do. Equally important, the kids at Marion in the SAP Program are amazing. There are 22 kids on AOG scholarships at Marion. What a great launching pad for West Point. If it all works out there will be 21 other kids that my son knows at West Point during beast. As to the phyiscal plant, Marion has recently become a state school and as the previous author pointed out, will start getting state support to polish up the physical plant. So...if you get offered an AOG scholarship, keep Marion in mind, it is an amazing place.</p>
<p>I would say the same about NMMI and my son, attentive, worked out very well. Especially for those posters and readers who may get offered the 'civil prep' slot, it is a very good thing.</p>
<p>All the things that FWDAD said have been true for my son at WP this year (he is class of 2010- aftera prpe year). He commented on seeing NMMI buds at R-Day, beast,etc.... He is doign well validated out of Chem and History based in large part on his NMMI grades. He sadi they looked at hsi NMMI grades (and I imagine MARion is the same) said to the effect of " oh you made an Aat NMMI in class xxx , good enough for me" and validated out</p>
<p>I was at a loss two years ago ont he civil prpe/SAP program, so if this is offered, jump with pride.. Yes I know you may not be able to brage to your friends abotu going to WP in a few months, but it will be well worth it. </p>
<p>we just said "our son was accepted to a prpe progarm for USMA and will spend a year at NMMI, and be at USMA int he Fall of 06' and most importanlt, you will learn that ...no matter where you go ... almost no one cares about "bragging rights" come late Septmeber, you will be old news at HS and evryone-most- have moved on!</p>
<p>All the bset, sorry for the ramble</p>
<p>If you are selected for admission to the USMAPS, be very glad. Our oldest son went to the USMA via the USMAPS and it was a great headstart. Most do not understand the mission of the prep school and say it is only for enlisted and athletes. Not true. Each class has a bit over 200 cc's (cadet candidates) of which about 70% come straight from high school and the balance are prior service. The prepsters begin their plebe year head and shoulders above their new classmates at West Point and this carries on throughout their four years. The majority of leadership positions at West Point are typically filled by prepsters. So don't for a second think that your child was "thrown a bone". They were given a grand opportunity to shine. It's also a very nice way to transition from civilian life into Army life because they have weekends off, unlike plebes at the USMA and they get to experience a more real Army life than cadets do. This is very important. So again, if this opportunity comes your way, grab it with both hands and give thanks for what you've just received!</p>
<p>USMAPS guys are given an unfair advantage it would seem with a whole year to prepare for plebe year. If I had a year to prepare for this I would be a stellar Cadet as well...</p>
<p>Honestly, most USMAPS kids are good guys. I have noticed some are "tool bags" and some seem to just not care about regs whatsoever. And you all may be interested to know that the base where USMAPS is located is being CLOSED DOWN. So USMAPS is moving up to West Point. (which most Cadets are quite angry about). </p>
<p>Either way, USMAPS is a good program... It's always interesting to have 5th class cadets running around....all year might be VERY interesting however. I think having them NOT at west point is an important distinction, but who am I to argue. I had a USMAPS visitor correct me a few weeks back...I can say I WASN'T impressed how much better they think they are than regular cadets. Once they get here (As plebes), they start to realize that we are all one corps and they are not somehow 'elite,' which is quite important.</p>