<p>What about recruiting at UCLA?</p>
<p>How would you compare UCLA to Georgetown in terms of recruiting? Which one is bigger target for companies?</p>
<p>If you want elite finance or consulting (usually considered the most desirable jobs) in my experience:</p>
<p>1). Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, Wharton, MIT
1.5) Dartmouth, Columbia, Penn (college)
2) Michigan (Ross), Brown, Northwestern, Berkeley (Haas), UVA, Cornell, Stern (NYU)</p>
<p>...everything else</p>
<p>Would you put UCLA on the 2.5 line?</p>
<p>For IB? Dartmouth and Penn (college) are not above Berkeley-Haas. That's a weird ranking. Haas can even head-to-head with Stanford grads and the latest Businessweek survey has even rank Haas number one for employment prospects.</p>
<p>I agree... I think your 1.5 and 2 should be switched</p>
<p>BERKELEY (NO. 3)</p>
<p>Don't be fooled by students lounging outdoors in the Haas Courtyard at University of California at Berkeley's gloriously sunny campus. At the Haas School of Business, the two-year undergraduate experience is packaged much like an MBA program, complete with advanced courses and a summer cohort system that allows students to progress as a group. But recruiter satisfaction, not the program's MBA-like structure, explains why Haas rocketed up nine spots to No. 3. In 2006 recruiters ranked Berkeley 41st. This year: No. 1.</p>
<p>What changed their minds? Haas cranked up its recruiting efforts, staffing Berkeley's undergraduate career center with an accounts manager who reaches out to potential employers and helps place students. This fall alone, 584 companies attended career fairs at Berkeley, up from 501 last fall, including a new early-bird event in November that helped employers get a head start on intern recruiting. The fair was one of a dozen held on campus throughout the year, where the likes of Intuit (INTU ), Cisco Systems (CSCO ), and Google (GOOG ) sought out students more vigorously alongside such newcomers as Bloomberg.</p>
<p>Berkeley also lavishes white-glove treatment on recruiters, who get fresh fruit and other perks, including student guides. "When our employers step out of their cars, they are taken by the hand by students," says Tom Devlin, director of the center. To confer VIP status on such leading recruiters as McKinsey, Microsoft (MSFT ), and Goldman Sachs (GS ), the school put them in a group of their own called the Berkeley Circle. Members get prominent placement on the career center Web site and are encouraged to provide advice on what their companies are looking for in undergrad business majors.</p>
<p>Of course, companies wouldn't be descending on Berkeley if they weren't happy with the product. **JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM ). recruiter Sasha Price says Berkeley students have a rare combination of business knowhow and communication skills that belies their youth. "We have had some interviewers say to us: My God, these Haas students know more than some of the MBAs we've just hired,'" **Price says.</p>
<p>Although students at times feel shortchanged when MBAs get preferential treatment in everything from faculty to facilities, as they do at many other schools, there are no complaints from undergrads when it comes to the job search. Stephen Wan, a senior who will be working in Apple Inc.'s (AAPL ) finance department this fall, says he has yet to see an unhappy employer on the Berkeley campus. It's not just the weather.</p>
<p>From 41'st to 1'st? That's laughable. I wouldn't take that seriously.</p>
<p>^ Why not? Maybe you did not read the whole article very carefully. And, at least, this is not mere anecdotes just like what some of you are doing here. This is a very credible survey and many people -- sudents, academics and employers -- believe this more than they believe USNews' ranking for undergrad business.</p>
<p>"I agree... I think your 1.5 and 2 should be switched"</p>
<p>I don't think they should be switched, but I don't see a difference between them either. 1.5 and 2 should be merged.</p>
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I don't think they should be switched, but I don't see a difference between them either. 1.5 and 2 should be merged.
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<p>YES, this is my point too. I just used Berkeley-Haas as an example to easily refute the claim that schools grouped as 1.5 are better than those schools grouped as 2 for IB...when the truth of the matter is, there isn't really any difference between the two groups. For example, Penn College or Dartmouth should not be higher ranked than Ross. They are, at best, on the same group.</p>
<p>Ross ---> #1</p>
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Ross ---> #1
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<p>Feel free to join the rest of us in reality.</p>
<p>don't hate. :)</p>
<p>All right...why is investment banking the only job people want? What do people do when their 2 year stint is over and mba's don't want them because they already have a bba and won't learn anything new. (that's my concern...)</p>
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and mba's don't want them because they already have a bba and won't learn anything new.
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<p>I'm not sure what you are saying, but if you don't think that top business programs welcome candidates from IB's then you are mistaken. BTW, business schools don't necessarily care if the students learn anything. They just care that the student can make big $s upon graduation and beyond.</p>
<p>How's UT Austin's McComb's School of Business in terms of graduate student recruiting potential? I heard that the accounting and finance programs are ranked in the top five in the nation, so I'm assuming that McCombs is a pretty good school for business, especially if you want to be recruited by the major firms. What do you all say?</p>
<p>well if you're gonna go to UT u gotta say YALL not you all</p>
<p>What kind of graduate students are you asking about? MBA students? MPA students? other?</p>
<p>haha, okay i say y'all, but i wasn't about to use it in a public forum. and VectorWega, i'm referring to MBA students. As a heads up, I'm going to say that I am in the top 4% of my graduating class thus far and am about to start the pursuit of an IB diploma and Plano East. However, I have also received admittance into the Texas Academy of Math and Science and am now trying to decide between IB or TAMS. Any suggestions?</p>