<p>The list isn’t real. People do it all the time right before the actual list is revealed. Like I said earlier, the kid messed up with the alphabetical order of the schools. (Which I would say wouldn’t matter if he’d not written out each school’s proper name)</p>
<p>He?</p>
<p>I am trying to download the pics on to imageshack. Have never used it.</p>
<p>The release is at midnight EDT- this was confirmed when the law school rankings came out. The magazines are not on shelves anywhere (esp given that London is only 5 hours ahead, meaning they’d have to be on shelves AT midnight. So it’s a fake.</p>
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<p>And you believe the bookstore people in the UK will wait patiently for the Morse Alert to be lifted? Fwiw, in prior years it was easy to spot the fake lists because they always came a few DAYS early and with some BS story. In this case, there is little to gain to beat the deadline by a few hours. And, contrary to many attempts in the genre, the poster provided a ranking that is entirely plausible, including the multiple ties for the ever so important position 25 that show Morse using crutches to a few loved ones. </p>
<p>It is entirely plausible that a few copies are circulating in London … amidst a population who could not care less about this type of publication.</p>
<p>And, the real thing should show up anytime now. So, no need to argue about our friend in London’s efforts to break the USNews code of silence. :)</p>
<p>that’s certainly plausible, but at this point its obvious that the guy is lying</p>
<p>it takes literally 10 seconds to upload something to imageshack, not a half hour. even if you are new to it, it shouldn’t take longer than a couple minutes to figure it out, unless he has a learning disability</p>
<p>That list is actually statistically plausible, although I’ll withhold from saying whether it’s right or not until US News releases its list at midnight.</p>
<p>The only thing I’m not bought on is Yale tied with Stanford. It doesn’t seem plausible that Stanford would make such a significant leap forward in a single year when it’s been so stagnant in recent years.</p>
<p>However, it’s realistic since it basically abides by all of my statistical predictions: Columbia wouldn’t go back down too far again as most predicted, Caltech would drop at least 1 place, and Chicago would go up at least 2. These are all points that are clear to anyone paying attention to the statistics US News uses to calculate ranking.</p>
<p>If you go to the U.S. News web site for colleges and scroll down they have already published the 2012 Top 25 National Universities but only have them listed alphabetically at this time</p>
<p>[US</a> News Education | Best Colleges | Best Graduate Schools | Online Schools](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/education]US”>http://www.usnews.com/education).</p>
<p>^ lol ur very late rnt u</p>
<p>Phuriku, the problem is that NONE of us can predict how stagnant a year truly is. Yes, we could dissect the CDS for every school that makes it available, but we would still have NO access whatsover to the final “ingredients” that allow Morse to come up with the list he wants. Will Morse continue to accept fabricated numbers a la Cal and Middlebury? Probably! </p>
<p>We do not know how the PA will come out, especially since it now includes an even worse list of respondents; we do not know the adjustments Morse will add to the graduation rates (the famous 7.5 percent that “handicaps” the selectivity index) and wherever he needs to level the playing field for his “faves”! </p>
<p>And, as we saw in last year in the top 5 ranking, we surely cannot dismiss blatant miscalculations.</p>
<p>xiggi, the main point that concerns me, which I didn’t mention in my last post, is that traditionally, the point scores of Yale and Stanford have been distant from each other. Yale has usually been scored 98/100 or thereabouts and Stanford has always been scored 94/100 or thereabouts. It would surprise me if that 4-point gap would be closed in a single year when Stanford has never (in recent history) even jumped above 95.</p>
<p>But yeah, weird things happen, like Columbia’s movement last year.</p>
<p>The list doesn’t seem implausible unless lovingugrad looked at the list on USNEWS and figured out how to rank them exactly. But why elevate Virginia and Wake Forest above UCLA and Berkley? It makes sense they dropped to the bottom with tuition woes and funding woes at UCs?</p>
<p>^^^^I would say it will either stay at 29 or drop to 30. You will continue to see the top publics drop/stay the same at USNWR.</p>
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They’d lose cred with Berkeley and JCLA tied. :)</p>
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100% academic peer assessment is the answer since it’s the only category that matters!</p>
<p>Ranking is fake. Alphabetical ordering is wrong. Wake Forest should be after UCLA.</p>
<p>“They’d lose cred with Berkeley and JCLA tied”</p>
<p>Hey, that J belongs to Leland Junior!</p>
<p>@Murukami
USNWR ranking methodology is stable. The first rankings that listed Berkeley, etc. ultra high are the outliers. Also, university prestige DOES make notable shift over decades. Just look at USC.</p>
<p>USNWR does fluctuate rankings for sales but if you seriously think that objective rankings would look the same after 2 decades, you are in denial.</p>
<p>@MurakamiFan: nobody except US HS students who read USN&WR would actually rank UC Berkeley or UCLA below Vanderbilt, WUSTL, Notre Dame, Emory or Wake Forest. All the aforementioned schools are WAY DOWN in serious international rankings like THES, whereas the UC’s are way up.</p>
<p>only 2.5 hours to go guys!</p>
<p>Murakami: I think you’re prudent to be concerned, but I don’t think you have that much to worry about. Sure, some schools have used US News to boost their popularity, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that traditionally great schools that are not highly rated by US News aren’t doing well.</p>
<p>For instance, take Georgetown. It’s ranked quite low by US News, but it still remains quite popular and prestigious. High school counselors still rate it at 4.8/5.0, barely behind HYP. I also don’t think many Georgetown graduates are having problems getting jobs.</p>