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<p>Yeah.... I went to Galveston last winter break (I also hit up Austin and unfortunately drove through Houston and Energy city (or whatever that horrid smelling city is right next to H-town)) and didn't like it too much. The beaches weren't spectacular. So. Padre is nice only in Spring Break when there are people there, and Corpus is alright. I loved Austin. Such a nice place visually, pretty diverse, few rednecks, and great weather. But I don't get what's so great about the Don Juan at Juan in a Million. Sure, the guy could break your hand in a second, but....food was eh. I particularly loved Lake Travis and Lago Vista. It's like 70 right there now! Perfect temp!</p>

<p>Still, doesn't nearly compare to the Jersey Shore (LBI, anyone whose from Jersey?)</p>

<p>The horrid smelling city is Pasadena, but I don't think that is from energy, it's from plastics factories I think.</p>

<p>All of the refineries are in Texas City and that area I think.</p>

<p>That horrid odor in Pasadena is the smell of money.</p>

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Im a texan, and I would rather live in Cali

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<p>Until you realize the loony laws in California as well as the cost of living there and the state taxes...</p>

<p>People don't know how nice Texas is until they venture elsewhere. That said, if it wasn't for the above factors, I'd also live in California.</p>

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Texas arrogance. I'm sick of Texans acting like it is the greatest place on Earth because it was its own republic.

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<p>Drop the attitude, please. You just came off as arrogant yourself. I could see your point better if you didn't come off so nasty.</p>

<p>I've been to most of the states in America and I've worked in a lot of them. Texas is still in my top 5 places to live based on, but not limited to, the following factors:</p>

<p>1) Cost of Living
2) Careers
3) Things to do (lakes, gulf coast)
4) Social events
5) Mild winters</p>

<p>You spend two months in a desolate part of Missouri like I did and then ***** about Texas. I was ready to go back to Texas after that.</p>

<p>I hate Texas Country but I also have Nashville music; Nashville is no longer even country. Phrases like "Honda Accord" and "Chicken McNuggets" do not belong in country songs.</p>

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there's nothing else besides

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<p>Maybe you should get some more friends to do things with, ever think of that? Obviously you're not going to the lake or anything if you're complaining. Also, no idea what you are talking about Austin ruining the Hill Country; I work in real estate development and the Hill Country is still there. Most of the Hill Country is to the west of Austin, like Burnet, Marble Falls, Fredericksburg, etc. Austin is never going to get large enough to turn Burnet and Marble Falls into suburbs.</p>

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And now suburban sprawl caused by all the yankees and Californians moving for cheap land and housing have created places like Sugarland, Irving, Cypress, Southlake, Arlington, New Woodlands, McAllen, Allen, Garland, Round Rock, most neighborhoods in San Antonio, etc with cookie cutter homes 5 feet from another, or McMansions and no character at all.

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<p>Agree with you here but most of these places are not desireable to live anyway, so why complain? I sure wouldn't want to live in any of those towns.</p>

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"Yankee" refers to anyone who doesn't live in Texas. It includes Okies, Cajuns, Tennesseans, etc.

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<p>Says who? If you keep changing the meanings or words nobody's going to know what you're talking about.</p>

<p>The reason the Rebel flag is rare in Texas is not because of Texas Pride; it's because during the War Between the States, Texas was one of the farthest western states of the CSA and still not populated heavily. It wasn't a huge region of the CSA in terms of population and activity.</p>

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The civil war was over more than 140 years ago and our country was reunited.

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<p>A "civil war" never happened. Civil wars are where two factions fight against each other for control of the same country. What happened in the 1860s was not a "civil war", the South declared itself independent. If you're going to call that a "civil war" you might as well call the American Revolution a "civil war" as well.</p>

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Within the next three years, Penn State will pass Texas in the rankings.

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<p>And when that happens, UT graduates will still be in greater demand than Penn State graduates in Texas. What's your point?</p>

<p>"And when that happens, UT graduates will still be in greater demand than Penn State graduates in Texas. What's your point?"</p>

<p>It was directed toward the OP. I'm sure UT graduates will be in greater demand in Texas. It is your state school and Penn State is on the other side of the country. It was a response to a comment that the OP made.</p>

<p>Well technically, yes, the War Between the States wasn't a civil war, it was a war of independence or a revolution (and during the war most Southerners called it the "Second American Revolution"). However, that doesn't change the fact that for almost 146 years Northerners, and later most Americans, have called it "the Civil War." Usually always, except in lazy chatroom typing, the C and W will be capitalized, and no one will refer to it as "a" civil war, just "the." And by defnition, the Sunni-Shi'ite conflict in Iraq is a civil war, but almost no one, particularly within our government, will recognize it as such.</p>

<p>Texas doesn't have much Southern pride because of the great deal of Texas pride already involved before 1860. Most Texan adults during the war could remember the Republic and the pride they had in it. Joining the union was simply for economic reasons.</p>

<p>Texas was very influential--many didn't want Texas annexed because it was a slave state.</p>

<p>And it wasn't involved in the war because it was on the frontier and didn't have a border with the Union.</p>

<p>Texas forever! And we really should thank the Civil War for giving us national unity. No longer do we say the United States "are," we say "The United States is." Though it may not seem gramatically correct, the US has become one, and remains one.</p>

<p>UT is a great school, while its name might not carry the same weight as Harvard, for example, it is still a great school academically. It doesn't matter as much what school you went to but how well you did there. My dad is a lawyer and knows a bunch of people who went to UT undergrad and Harvard or Columbia law school. Its definitely one of my top choices.</p>

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However, that doesn't change the fact that for almost 146 years Northerners, and later most Americans, have called it "the Civil War."

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<p>Who cares what they called it; they can call the sky red but it doesn't make it so.</p>

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Texas doesn't have much Southern pride because of the great deal of Texas pride already involved before 1860.

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<p>Only to an extent. Remember that Texas had a wide variety of immigrants at the time, many from Germany. Not everyone was a Texan patriot; most were farmers trying to get by.</p>

<p>Cofaloaf, who gives a crap that it doesn't carry the same weight as Harvard. You can make plenty of money with a degree in a good major from UT-Austin. Just like you said, you can go to grad school elsewhere with a degree from UT.</p>

<p>I think someone should close this thread...</p>

<p>Bottom line: if prestige is your number one priority, then stick to applying at the elite universities. Regardless, your actually education, no matter where you go, is entirely up to you.</p>

<p>Formidable that was my point... Hoped you studied for the SAT reading test.</p>

<p>Who the hell actually cares about prestige. Except my parents.. damn them making me apply to UPenn just to see if I can get in!</p>

<p>Well, that's what I'm talking about. We're not really for prestige(well most of us, anyway, who aren't looking at the Ivy League threads), but our parents do because I think they feel that a prestigious school would guarantee you a good future. However, I don't think that's the case in the post-jobs era.</p>

<p>That's what I really wanted to find out.</p>

<p>I think there is a consensus that prestige should be low on the list of priorities. I've been accepted to UT for grad school and I am leaning heavily that direction. UT ranks #11 in graduate engineering programs (higher than several ivy-leagues). At a big school like UT, you must look into the qualtiy of the particular program you are interested in. The overall perception of the enitre university is of little value. When you are finished and looking back, you will absolutely regret it if you went to a school that was a poor fit for you on account of its prestige.</p>

<p>UT has no prestige in the Northeast because the school has no significant out-of-state population from there. The university is seen as little more than a football/party school.</p>

<p>The true "Public Ivies" like Michigan, Virginia, and UNC/CH all have significant OOS- like 15-33%, with many students from the NE.</p>

<p>Texas has a very provincial admissions policy; this results in a kind of mental incest due to lack of exposure to people from other states and nations.</p>

<p>The same might be said of Berkeley and UCLA as well but the difference is that intellectual caliber of the students at these schools is dramatically higher than at UT.</p>

<p>UT has this thing called a state legislature which passes laws regulating them. UT has a maximum percentage of OOS they can take. We also have a top ten percent law ensuring that rewarding in-state students aren't screwed because some pompus coastal kid got a little higher on his SAT.</p>

<p>You are kidding yourself if you think the intellectual caliber of Cal kids is dramatically higher than UTs. Simply delusional. Simply because a school has better SAT scores does not mean the students are better. If you look at the top students at UT and Cal, they are even. If you look at the middle, they are even. The only exception is that UT has around 15-20k more students, because they believe in offering a top notch education to as many students as possible. When you have enough qualified kids in Texas to fill the school, why admit ANYONE from out of state? People from OOS should consider themselves lucky that the taxpayers of Texas are willing to share such a great school with others.</p>

<p>UT also has the best honors programs of any college in the country, and they match or exceed the level of Ivy league schools. What is Cal's answer to that?</p>

<p>And a school is not just a class. You will have a 300 kid class everywhere, and the quality is the same. UT has FAR better social aspects. UT has FAR better sports. UT is located in Austin. Berkeley is in Oakland. I'll take Austin in a heartbeat. Plus UT gives you the best connections in Texas, it gives you the most prestige in Texas. No self-respecting Texan would give that up to go to cold, dirty Berkeley.</p>

<p>UT's President went to Berkeley. Ask him what he thinks about the schools, and he'll give you the honest truth: UT.</p>

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<p>Ouch, loneranger, that's a bit harsh. From reading this post (and another one) it is a bit obvious that you are not too keen on us OOS students. Just think- if you were an OOS student, knowing as much as you did, you would still want to go to Texas, correct? I don't think that a student should be penalized for not living in the state. Share the wealth, right? Some of us are incredibly grateful that we got into UT. That is why we are willing to pay OOS tuition. Not all OOS students are the same...</p>

<p>kikib1028: Why did you pick UT over schools closer to you, such as Virginia, William and Mary, and UNC?</p>

<p>UVA: Goodness I would never go to that school. Waaayyyy too many people from my school go there and I do not like the type of students who attend. Many of them are pompous a**es who are incredibly full of themselves and truly believe that UVA is th best school in the world and they are the best people in the world. It is also not diverse enough for me. Most of the students were upper middle class caucasions, with few exceptions. I just did not like the feeling that I got when I was on the campus. </p>

<p>William and Mary: Too small. And too boring. Its it the worst part of Virginia. And most of the people who attend there are strange. Def. not for me.</p>

<p>UNC: I really did consider it, but I have two uncles who teach there and I have just had enough of the school. Both of my parents went there and I have been visiting ever since I was young. I just- I wanted something new. </p>

<p>That last reason is another important reason I wanted to get away from Virginia. I moved here in eigth grade and have never really like the area. Austin seems like a great city, one that I would truly enjoy. The atmosphere of the school and the area is really important to me and UT seems to be best for me.</p>