Vaccine reluctance & General COVID Discussion

Thanks. I notice that for a flu shot the provider usually adds an administration fee of about $75 to the insurance claim.

I think a lot of people are forgetting that the vaccine does not protect them from getting COVID, but it does protect them from getting a severe case. It does not mean they can’t transmit covid, but it does mean they’ll transmit a less lethal dose of COVID. Of course if enough of the population is vaccinated, it should help protect us all.

My husband works in healthcare and has had his first dose of the Pfizer vaccine with no negative reaction. I’ll get the vaccine once it’s available to me. I’ve never been anti-vaccine but I do have concerns about the speed in which these vaccines have been developed. I’m glad I’m not at the top of the list to get vaccinated as it allows a bit of a ‘wait and see,’ approach. I’ll be interested to see how long the protection lasts.

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Once the vaccines are readily available, Costco and Walmart pharmacies may be options with less retail markup / “administration fees” compared to physicians’ offices or other pharmacies.

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Are folks being charged for getting these vaccines? I don’t believe they are in my state CT.

The vaccine is free. However, providers can charge an administration fee. And shame on those that do, IMO

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As of now, the answer to that question is no. I say that because as you have said, that question has not even been addressed. The goal is to get ppl vaccinated ASAP with what vaccine is available and with the schedule that has been approved.

If data shows the protection with one vaccine decreases over time, there will probably be booster doses given or even new booster doses that could protect against the new variant strains if needed.

I was also sick in March (I am now sure I had the flu) but I seriously doubt they were tested for COVID as testing was almost totally unavailable unless you were hospitalized. It’s natural tendency for humans to believe they have COVID when the flu was far more prevalent at the time. Even the CDC says it is extremely rare people to get re-infected, most “second cases” were not tested the first time so their is no verification. In any case the vaccine is effective 95% (1 in 20) of the time. Verified reinfection occurs at about a rate of 1 in 10000. As far as antibodies go you CAN’T recover without them, if you have symptoms then your body is responding with its full armada immune response (that of course is what kills some of us). So much misinformation on social media. Talk to a doctor about this.

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Where have these statements been determined in trials or research on the vaccines?

From what I have read on the vaccine trials, the vaccines’ effect on asymptomatic cases or transmission was not checked, so whether and how much effect they have here is currently unknown. (The vaccine trials were checking for effect on symptomatic COVID-19 and the subset of those cases that were severe.)

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The mRNA technology underlying the vaccine was discovered in 2005. Weissman and his team have been testing and refining mRNA-based vaccines for more than a decade.

Pioneering mRNA Technology in Moderna, Pfizer Vaccines Developed at University of Pennsylvania

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Interesting interview with Johnson and Johnson’s Chief Scientific Officer on what this vaccine does.

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Neighbor’s D and SIL won’t get vaccinated unless their required to by their employer. D is a ER nurse and SIL is a paramedic/firefighter/first responder. They think Covid is “no big deal” for young healthy individuals like themselves and they think the vaccines were approved too fast.

SMH over these two, but they live in rural area where the conspiracy theorists ( and militia members) are plentiful.

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Again, if this become yet another debate on the topic, the thread eill be closed. Please be mindfully of the rules.

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@CU123 Your reasoning is actually very thoughtful to let others get it first. Once appointments are booked, it’s hard to quickly get backfill off you cancel (esp if it’s in the upcoming week.

Not telling you what to decide by friends who work in the ER have shared that their colleagues who got COVID in March/April timing got it again in Sept timing. The second time was worse for them.

I’m not sure if there’s an official published data set anywhere on getting COVID the second time around but it seems like you can get it more than once.

I have a friend with Graves Disease and she has received conflicting advice about taking the vaccine. One specialist said she should get vaccinated another said she should not. She’s decided to wait a few months before getting the vaccine.

Wow, that’s seems strange given their professions.

What is it about graves disease that is the concern about getting it?

Graves is an autoimmune disease. Autoimmune diseases are often exacerbated by vaccines. Also therapy for autoimmune diseases often include immunosuppressant regimes.

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Patients with Graves should still get the vaccine. The fact that a physician would recommend otherwise is dubious. Assuming it was a physician (and not an NP or PA), it makes me question how much immunology and molecular biology that physician remembers.

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I know. I didn’t say my concerns were rational. I’m sure the experts are right and that it’s quite safe. Nevertheless, I’m glad I’m not first in line.

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@ucbalumnus Hmmm, I can’t really say. This is my understanding, along the same lines as someone who has contracted COVID is not protected from getting it again (not that the two go together). I checked this understanding with a friend who is an epidemiologist and professor at the John’s Hopkins School of Medicine; he confirmed that getting the vaccine does not lessen the chance of contracting COVID, and it does not lessen the chance of transmitting COVID, but it does protect against contracting a severe case of COVID. I suppose time will tell.