@compmom My MIL’s sister had polio and has suffered life long effects (one leg is shorter than the other). She was in the hospital for a year. MIL and her siblings were only allowed to visit her with a window between them.
When my mother was 9, she spent the summer in bed with rheumatic fever. Fortunately she suffered no lingering health issues.
In the sermon we listened to this morning the preacher actually mentioned the vaccine and Christian underrepresentation in vaccine numbers, telling people he didn’t understand how some could say they trust God to protect them from Covid and are worried about the vaccine. “Don’t you trust God can protect you from the vaccine too?”
Interesting thought I hadn’t seen mentioned before.
It was a side part of his sermon going along with, but not the main point of his sermon. It made me wonder what folks there had been telling him about it all though!
Reminds me of this: God Will Save Me
For a COVID-19 analogy of the above, substitute three vaccines for the car, canoe, motorboat, and helicopter.
Seems like a newspaper cartoonist had the same thought:
Don’r believe everything you read, especially in regards to COVID vaccine side effects:
Then there are 62 men who developed myocarditis, of the 5,000,000 who received the vaccine. incidence of myocarditis is about 10-20 per 100,000, or 0.01%-0.02%. The incidence of myocarditis among men who got the vaccine is 0.00124%.
So it’s hard to say that it was caused by the vaccine.
As for Vaccine Enhanced Disease - no evidence that this is an issue in Israel, so I do not know where you are getting your news from. Please provide support for this claim.
With COVID test positivity rates at 0.1% even as the country opens, and fewer than 100 new cases a day (77 per day average last 7 days), even as the country is easing restriction, I would actually say that news from Israel is, in fact, “looking great”.
That was a really interesting read, @MWolf It’s pretty sad what people will make up as truth when the facts they want aren’t there.
Or I wonder if some of these are created by people getting their jollies seeing how far people are willing to spread them.
ETA Both H and I have donated blood since getting vaxed. We were told there was no waiting period afterward as long as one was feeling good. You could even do it on the same day as a vax.
Eh, H was just talking with BIL and asked if he and SIL had been vaxed yet. No. They don’t want either of the two that “mess with your DNA” saying “come back after 25 years of that messing with your DNA and then tell me how you feel about it.”
Is there a banging head on the wall emoji?
How can anyone have gotten this far without realizing those vaxes do not change a person’s DNA at all? I’m guessing I know what their news sources are (sigh).
Oh, gosh, yes. But she’s gotten 100 times crazier. She let her medical license lapse in 2015 or so - I’m not sure if she is allowed to even call herself a doctor at this point.
Came across this article today, about vaccine reluctance of police officers. Hopefully more will choose to get vaccinated and/or more departments will put incentives in place. Having a relatively high proportion of unvaccinated police could lead to some issues when they are interacting with the public.
Some highlights/lowlights:
Phoenix: 23% police vaccinated
Columbus OH: 28%
Atlanta: 36%
Las Vegas: 39%
Honolulu: 80%
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/05/02/police-low-vaccination-rates-safety-concerns/
Do not want to get political but the officers with the lowest vaccination rates may fit the demographics of those who are vaccine reluctant.
Could have to do with general vaccine reluctance rather than the police angle.
My opinion is that you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. It’s very unfortunate
I saw the “theory” this morning (via a church type mailing) that the severe outbreak in India is due to the vaxes there. (sigh)
I fully agree I bet it’s demographics (more than just religion) not getting vaccinated, not a particular job. If it were due to solely the job I doubt Honolulu would be at 80%.
Widely circulating coronavirus variants and persistent hesitancy about vaccines will keep the goal out of reach. The virus is here to stay, but vaccinating the most vulnerable may be enough to restore normalcy.
Edited to remove quotes. I just picked a few I thought were interesting. But it’s worth reading the article to gain the full picture.
Lack of herd immunity means that it is even more important for selfish reasons to get vaccinated.
Agreed!
That last point is important, but so is the obverse: If you’re vaccinated and so is almost everyone you regularly encounter, you have little to worry about. Failure to reach herd immunity isn’t going to render vaccines ineffective, though scientists will have to watch new variants carefully (that seems to be much of the problem in India now, for example).
Are the herd immunity calculations taking into account the proportion of people who have had covid? Seems there is a subset of people who have had covid, who haven’t been vaccinated…these people do have some protection against getting covid again. Plus, some physicians have told those who have had covid in the past 90 days (or so) to wait to get vaccinated.
I do realize we don’t know how long having had covid protects one, but we don’t the know the same about the vaccines either…same for variants. Regardless, I am in the camp that covid is here to stay.
I have seen some charts where they include in the immunity count those who had Covid already (for example, one for the state of Massachusetts).
However, this chart has a lot of issues with assumptions that probably aren’t true- all vaccinated in the state live in the state, all tested positive in the state live in the state, those who had Covid and the vaccine are double counted, etc.
Then there is the age issue. When they say percent of population vaccinated and include all ages including those too young to be eligible for vaccines. But the Covid case counts include all ages.
Well, seeing 80% of our police have been vaccinated makes me happy, since they are setting a good example and do interact with lots of the public. Our state is starting to have more small clinics in public housing with translators and other places where there are large numbers of unvaccinated. They’re providing translators to explain to the residents abs having shots in walk in basis.
In general, NJ seems to be doing ok with getting its population vaccinated but maybe this will help those still reluctant -
Why does this not surprise me?