<p>How much does being valedictorian help in the college process for the elite. How does class siz affect the status of being ranked first in your class?</p>
<p>being a val without good scores, aps etc may not help much. i have seen 50% of them being rejected at certain schools that has 30% general acceptance rate.</p>
<p>I heard that half of vals get rejected at the Ivys. The larger and the more competitive your class is, the more valuable first rank is.</p>
<p>colleges don't know whether you will be valedictorian before they admit you though.</p>
<p>wait, is what I said true?</p>
<p>no..sort of...school that rank will rank in the beginning of your senior year as well as the end</p>
<p>ecnerwalc3321- I wonder about this too... I was 5th at the end of junior year, now with 1st quarter grades in I am 4th and because of the other kids above me having more unweighted classes, I may move up even more before graduation. On the transcripts that I send to colleges it still says 5th though. I guess it really doesn't matter... 5th, 3rd, 2nd- its all relative.</p>
<p>My school doesn't rank and we don't know who is what until the end of the year.:(</p>
<p>Does anyone have stats on val applicants to ivies and the application decision they received (like 100 val. applied, 37 got in, etc)?</p>
<p>Lower GPA valedictorians at other school usually marks a more competitive school with a more rigorous curriculum. If you're number 8 with a 4.8, there's some major grade inflation going on (if you're on a weighted scale of 5.0).</p>
<p>Well, I'll input all that I know. </p>
<p>The reason that a lot of vals get rejected is because that most schools who have "exact" rankings are poor-good public schools. A lot of the valedictorians who apply might have come from a mediocre high school where they only took like three AP classes, and then scored a 2 on each of the tests (yes, I actually know quite a few vals who fit into this category). Therefore, the rejection rate for Valedictorians are so high. But, overall, the acceptance rate for valedictorians are actually really high: 50+ percent for Penn, and pretty sure the other ivies hover around the same range. </p>
<p>Basically, the adcom will judge how much your #1 ranking is worth by looking over your scores (Ap's, SATs, SATIIs) and your counselor profile of the school. If you have a 4.9 GPA, ranked #1, with a 1220 SAT, all 2s and 3s on APs...well..let's just say that the valedictorian title will be negated. But if you are ranked #1, 4.7 GPA, with a 1400+ GPA, and 4s and 5s on APs and such, then, the valedictorian spot will carry a lot more weight. </p>
<p>Alot of private schools do not rank/have valedictorians, so the "percent" of valedictorians rejected/accepted is unreliable.</p>
<p>Hope that helped.</p>