Vanderbilt Prestige

<p>UVa is a ridiculously good school… Probably one of the better value schools out there for your money. It is filled with tons of students who turned down Duke, Princeton, Cornell, etc… because it’s a great value for such low tuition dollars. It’s a really good school in my opinion. Darden at UVA is the best undergraduate business school (topping Wharton; oh how the mighty fall lol) in one of the undergrad b-school rankings.</p>

<p>^ That’s according to a magazine’s unscientific ranking system. Reputation wise, there is zero competition. As evidenced by the fact that Darden is the graduate school of business. You didn’t even remember the name of UVA’s undergrad B school. LOL!</p>

<p>^McIntire School of Commerce… How come this is like the first time I’ve heard of McIntire !!! LOL School of Commerce??? wow. I didn’t know UVA had different names for undergraduate and graduate programs lol. :eek:</p>

<p>^ It’s cool. I typically don’t point out other people’s mistakes(I consider it obnoxious), but I did it this time because the argument that McIntire>Wharton is baseless. Overall, though, I agree that UVA is one of the best universities in the country.</p>

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While that was true once, Vanderbilt has increasingly garnered a diverse student body. I somewhat disagree with the second part as well; Emory is a slightly stronger university than Rice.</p>

<p>Roughly 45% of Vanderbilt students come from the entire Southeast. Compare to Rice, where 47% of students are from Texas alone.</p>

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Apparently as far as Duke is concerned, Vanderbilt can have that dubious honor. When I last visited, several Dukies jokingly referred to Harvard as the “Duke of the North.” :stuck_out_tongue: </p>

<p>(Although it should be noted that one source claims this should be [url=<a href=“http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/08/is_columbia_the_duke_of_the_no.html]Columbia[/url”>Is Columbia the Duke of the North?]Columbia[/url</a>] rather than Harvard.)</p>

<p>I think uva is a very good school as well and it wouldn’t surprise me if it was better than whart.</p>

<p>“Compare to Rice, where 47% of students are from Texas alone.”</p>

<p>42% of Stanford’s students come from California. Your point is a terrible one.</p>

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<p>bias much?</p>

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My point is clearly that Vanderbilt is no more “Southern” than Rice. </p>

<p>What’s your point? :confused:</p>

<p>sorry 10char</p>

<p>Choklit, you misunderstood my post. My statement about Emory was entirely unrelated to geographic distribution. If you read over my post again, you’ll notice that I mention the geographic distribution of Vanderbilt and Rice students but not Emory. The percentages go with my first statement about Vanderbilt becoming more diverse.</p>

<p>If I were going to attempt to prove academic superiority, I’d cite something like the NRC rankings…not class profiles.</p>

<p>it’s cool. I see what you meant.</p>

<p>^That smiley is on drugs hehe.</p>

<p>Personally, I don’t even know what state it’s in.</p>

<p>Where Hannah Montana is from.</p>

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<p>You can pick and choose data your like or dislike. Business Week is business week :)</p>

<p>^I agree with you :)</p>

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<p>According to Collegeboard:</p>

<p>Vanderbilt
* 1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
* 8% Asian/Pacific Islander
* 7% Black/Non-Hispanic
* 6% Hispanic
* 53% White/Non-Hispanic
* 5% Non-Resident Alien
* 21% Race/ethnicity unreported</p>

<p>Duke
* 1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
* 22% Asian/Pacific Islander
* 10% Black/Non-Hispanic
* 6% Hispanic
* 48% White/Non-Hispanic
* 7% Non-Resident Alien
* 6% Race/ethnicity unreported</p>

<p>Rice
* <1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
* 21% Asian/Pacific Islander
* 8% Black/Non-Hispanic
* 11% Hispanic
* 44% White/Non-Hispanic
* 8% Non-Resident Alien
* 7% Race/ethnicity unreported</p>

<p>Emory
* <1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
* 20% Asian/Pacific Islander
* 9% Black/Non-Hispanic
* 3% Hispanic
* 49% White/Non-Hispanic
* 10% Non-Resident Alien
* 8% Race/ethnicity unreported</p>

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Comparing all four, Rice comes out as the most diverse and Vanderbilt the least diverse, but the differences between Vanderbilt and the others are negligible. More importantly, however, though schools may tout diversity (we have 20% Hispanics, 10% internationals yadda yadda), that does not causate and facilitate racial interactions. Princeton Review 2009 ranked Rice as #2 in “Lots of Race/Class Interaction” – signifying more depth than simply advertising and boasting about its diversity. </p>

<p>What’s the point of having a diverse student body if they still mindfully self-segregate and refuse to mingle together? Accepting and recruiting diverse students is a good first step, but it’s not the whole story.</p>

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For the Emory is “slightly better” than Rice claim, </p>

<p>Emory (Middle 50% of First-Year Students)
SAT Critical Reading: 640 - 740
SAT Math: 670 - 760
SAT Writing: 650 - 740</p>

<p>Rice (Middle 50% of First-Year Students)
SAT Critical Reading: 650 - 750
SAT Math: 670 - 780
SAT Writing: 640 - 750</p>

<p>The test scores alone show Rice actually edges out Emory. The differences are tiny, but they are there. </p>

<p>For acceptance rates, Rice also is more selective:
Rice - Fall 2007 Acceptance rate: 25.1 %
Emory - Fall 2007 Acceptance rate: 27.2 %
(I was trying to look for the most recent ones, but just got these after a minute of googling).</p>

<p>It is easier to get into Emory than it is to get into Rice, not in the difference of a top 20 school versus a top 100 school, but there is a slight gap nonetheless. They are both great schools, it all just depends on what school culture you like best and what you are interested in pursuing as a major.</p>

<p>Whoever said anything about admissions statistics? Perhaps IBclass06 was referring to the professors. You also have to think about the amount of space a college has compared to the number of students apply. If college A has only 100 spots for it’s freshman class and has 12000 applicants, it’s obvious that college A would have a lower acceptance rate than college B, which might have 500 spots and 10000 applicants.</p>

<p>Don’t get me wrong, I’m totally with you on the “they are both great schools, it all just depends on what school culture you like best and etc…”</p>

<p>On a sidenote, 300th post! I am officially a “member” :D</p>

<p>Right, like professors can categorically be “stronger” or “better” at one top 20 university than another top 20 university. That makes a lot of sense. </p>

<p>Not.</p>

<p>I used test scores and admissions statistics as a general metric to judge the academic strength of the overall student body. People usually do this as well.</p>

<p>And I see you’re going to Emory next fall. Maybe you should offer some reasons to the contrary if you disagree with me?</p>