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THES World Ranking
2005: Vandy (114), Emory (141)
2006: Vandy (53), Emory (56)
NET: Vandy (+61), Emory (+85)
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<p>Vanderbilt ranks higher both years. Emory only has a larger greater "net" gain because it was so far behind. In the US News rankings, Northeastern probably has a bigger net gain than Harvard but this means absolutely nothing. Also -- I'm not a big fan of rankings but Vanderbilt ranks higher (or is tied) in every single ranking I have seen.</p>
<p>If girls are important to you as you said, then Vandy is a no-brainer. It is widely recognized as having arguably the best looking girls in the country.</p>
<p>FWIW, here are a few subjective impressions based on three visits to Vanderbilt over the last few months. My and my son's impressions are biased by the fact that he attended a large public high school in a college town; the
school is very diverse, and my son has good friends from every corner of the globe. In fact, the majority of his friends are foreign-born or are the children of parents who immigrated to the U.S. as adults.</p>
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<li><p>There were a lot more African-American students present at every engineering school function than I expected.</p></li>
<li><p>There were far fewer Asian-looking students than we are accustomed to, but not fewer than we expected.</p></li>
<li><p>Without exception, the Greek influence was minimized by all students we spoke with, both within engineering and from the other schools. It is there, but there is no pressure to join, and it is not an overwhelming part of college life to the extent that it is at many large publics. (By that I mean one's friends are not determined largely by whether or not one is part of the Greek system.)</p></li>
<li><p>At the end of summer orientation, my son got a big hug and kiss from a drop-dead beautiful girl, also an engineering student. The girls are very pretty, and apparently pretty friendly to boot. (This is a mom speaking.)</p></li>
<li><p>The preppy stereotype is out of date. The students dress like college students anywhere.</p></li>
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<p>Finally, if you want really big-city stuff, go to Atlanta. In my opinion, Nashville seems like a good compromise between college-town small and large urban. It has urban amenities, but is manageable for a college student.</p>
<p>I don't have a long history with Vanderbilt, these are just impressions based on recent visits.</p>
<p>O B J E C T I V E D A T A </p>
<p>UNDERGRADUATE ENROLLMENT<br>
Emory 6646 Vanderbilt 6378</p>
<p>% AND # OF STUDENTS WHO ARE IN-STATE
Emory 29% (1927) Vanderbilt 16% (1020)</p>
<p>% OF FEMALE STUDENTS<br>
Emory 56% Vanderbilt 53%</p>
<p>% OF WHITE/NON-HISPANIC STUDENTS<br>
Emory 52% Vanderbilt 61%</p>
<p>% FROM PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS<br>
Emory 65% Vanderbilt 60%</p>
<p>% OF STUDENTS IN GREEK LIFE (Male & Female)
Emory 27%/32% Vanderbilt 34%/50%</p>
<p>TOP MAJORS AT EACH SCHOOL (acc to collegeboard.com)
Emory 25% Social Sciences, 15% Business & Marketing, 10% Psychology, 9% Inter-disciplinary Studies, 7% Biology, 7% Health Professions, 5% English
Vanderbilt 29% Social Sciences, 15% Engineering, 7% Psychology, 7% Foreign Languages, 6% English</p>
<p>ANNUAL IS & OOS COST (Tuition & Fees)<br>
Emory $32,506 Vanderbilt $33,440
Emory $32,506 Vanderbilt $33,440 </p>
<p>TOTAL COLLEGE ENDOWMENT AND PER CAPITA (undergrad and grad)
Emory $4.87bn ($394,717) Vanderbilt $2.9bn ($253,846)</p>
<p>AVERAGE HIGH/LOW IN FEBRUARY<br>
Emory 57-37 Vanderbilt 52-31</p>
<p>GRADUATION RATES<br>
-% OF STUDENTS EXPECTED TO GRADUATE IN 6 YEARS:
Emory 93% Vanderbilt 85%
-% OF STUDENTS WHO DO GRADUATE IN 6 YEARS:
Emory 89% Vanderbilt 88%
-% OF STUDENTS WHO GRADUATE IN 4 YEARS:
Emory 84% Vanderbilt 83%</p>
<p>FACULTY RESOURCES<br>
-% OF CLASSES WITH <20 STUDENTS
Emory 64% Vanderbilt 66%
-% OF CLASSES WITH 50+ STUDENTS
Emory 8% Vanderbilt 7%
-FACULTY/STUDENT RATIO<br>
Emory 7/1 Vanderbilt 9/1</p>
<p>STUDENT SELECTIVITY<br>
-% ACCEPTANCE RATE<br>
Emory 34% Vanderbilt 34%
-SAT/ACT RANGE (Middle 50%)<br>
Emory 1270-1430 Vanderbilt 1290-1460
-% OF STUDENTS RANKING IN TOP 10% IN HS CLASS
Emory 85% Vanderbilt 79%
% OF STUDENTS WITH HS GPA > 3.75 (Unweighted)
Emory 52% Vanderbilt 46%</p>
<h1>OF NMS FINALISTS IN 2006 (% of student body)</h1>
<pre><code>Emory 51 (3.07%) Vanderbilt 183 (11.4%)
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<h1>OF 1500 STUDENTS ENROLLED (% of student body)</h1>
<pre><code>Emory 1148 (18%) Vanderbilt 1026 (16%)
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<p>ALUMNI GIVING %<br>
Emory 36% Vanderbilt 27%</p>
<p>S U B J E C T I V E D A T A </p>
<p>PEER ASSESSMENT<br>
Emory 4 Vanderbilt 4.1</p>
<p>Statistically, these two schools compare very closely, but oddly enough if they weren’t both located in the South, I doubt that there would be a lot of overlap in their applicant pools. There are some stereotypes that some have about these schools, but I agree with midmo above that these are out-of-date and I would agree with most of midmo’s comments. My perception is that these schools attract different types of students, but it is also clear to me that students can be very successful from either college whether for business, graduate school, whatever. </p>
<p>Both colleges are very, very well thought of in the South (Duke is the premier choice and Vandy and Emory would be very close along with slightly stronger Rice) and both have some representative (and growing) numbers of alumni in other parts of the country. Both schools have benefited nicely from the broadening matriculation patterns of top students and they compete regularly with those also applying to the Ivies not named HYP and who are willing to consider a southern locale. </p>
<p>Nationally, Vanderbilt may have higher name recognition due to its SEC-affiliated sports programs and its reputation for having a very active social scene. By contrast, Emory competes in Division III and Atlanta is a fun city and provides a good social backdrop for Emory students. So also is Nashville a fun town and if you are interested in music, then Nashville provides a great variety of musical offerings (far more than just country as might be commonly thought). </p>
<p>As others have suggested, these schools have many similarities on paper, but in the flesh, they aren’t that similar so visits are strongly recommended. The feel and the vibe will appeal to different folks. The good news is that they are both terrific schools and you can have a fabulous undergraduate experience at either.</p>
<p>Vandy and Emory are viewed quite equally in my area of the Northeast. But holy damn do I want to transfer to Vandy :/</p>
<p>jkh, thank you for posting those statistics, i didn't have access to those, they were really more specifically what i was looking for. looks like they are more equally diverse geographically than i thought</p>
<p>fyi, the "southwest" is in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY considered the south, and should not be included when saying which school has more southerners.</p>
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Also. The in-state at Emory is 21%, not 29%
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<p>"29% in-state students"</p>
<p>just to clear up a few differences in number reported about the schools. as a word of caution, do not trust the college board to accurately report the current numbers of any school. for example for emory:
in state students - college board = 29% actual number = 21%
sat range - college board 1270-1430 actual 1300-1470
other figures:
55% female
45% male
79% come from outside Georgia
59% come from outside the Southeast
64% come from public high schools
36% come from independent or parochial schools
37% are students of color</p>
<p>Caucasian 54%<br>
Asian, Asian American, Pacific Islander 24%<br>
African American 8%<br>
Latino, Hispanic 4%<br>
Native American <1% </p>
<p>these are just a few of the things that you should be aware of that were misreported. <a href="http://www.emory.edu/ADMISSIONS/about/class-profile.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.emory.edu/ADMISSIONS/about/class-profile.htm</a>
i assume the same goes for vandy but just an fyi</p>
<p>um...not sure what to think, Emory had in its common data set 1270-1430 and then changed it....weird..</p>
<p>I don't see how that is true... note page 9... <a href="http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/CDS2006_2007.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/CDS2006_2007.pdf</a></p>
<p>^^ probably because they stopped including oxford SAT scores in their entering freshman class </p>
<p>Only collegeboard combines the two sets of data... Emory never has... USNWR never has... but we digress.</p>
<p>throwing out another couple of very broad questions,</p>
<p>For the introverted but socially amicable average joe, which school would be more "fun"? (as in sure getting smashed at parties is fun...but going out to a night in the city with a few close friends is even better)
I'd love to meet new people...so as much social interaction as possible?</p>
<p>As for academics, which school is tougher/stressful? I do not like stressful environments, and I would like a school with a more laid back touch.</p>
<p>Which school grades harder? My parents are only paying for classes where i get a B+ or above, so....</p>
<p>and thanks for all the posts, guys! it helped SO much</p>
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Which school grades harder? My parents are only paying for classes where i get a B+ or above, so....
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<p>emory would likely be easier considering SAT scores there are slightly lower and the grades you receive in class have a lot to do with competition with other classmates and what percentile range you fall in.</p>
<p>as for the finer details of the social scene at both schools, i've heard over and over again that vanderbilt is awesome, and i've heard vaguely that emory is rather stifled, but i've never visited either myself.</p>
<p>Incredible, you ought not post when you don't know what you are saying. First, as I've discussed the SAT range is higher for Emory, but not by a noticable amount. Also, you could not be more wrong about the grading system. Only the business school grades according to percentiles, the college absolutely does not promote competition; i.e if you get good grades you get good grades. The only possible scaling done at Emory College involves everyone in the class getting a higher grade if the average is considered low for a particular test or semester. As for social life, cliches are a nice touch elsijfdl, but not helpful to her post. Both schools provide means, usually through the frat system, to meet and party with people. One you secure a group of friends and merely want to do your own thing, Atlanta offers a pretty spectacular scene.</p>
<p>jkh411, I don't understand what all the debate is about. Vanderbilt clearly has the higher SAT range. It's deceiving that Oxford's admission statistics are not included along with Emory's. Oxford students are guaranteed to be a part of the Emory graduating class after two years at Oxford college.</p>
<p>Let's break it down like this:</p>
<p>Emory University's undergraduate schools consist of Emory College (the Arts and Sciences college), Oxford College, the Nell Hodgson Woodruff School of Nursing, and the Goizueta School of Business.</p>
<p>Vanderbilt University's undergraduate schools consist of the College of Arts and Sciences, Peabody College of Education and Human Development, Blair School of Music, and the School of Engineering. </p>
<p>Your skewed statistics don't have definite parameters: You claim Emory has a higher SAT range because you're taking the SAT statistics solely from Emory College (the A&S College), while not taking the other schools into account (like Oxford, Nursing, Business). In that case, why don't we just compare the Arts & Sciences Colleges of each school:</p>
<p>(Name of School: SAT Range/ACT Range)</p>
<p>Vanderbilt University College of Arts and Sciences: A&S 1360-1510/31-33
Emory College: 1300-1470 (according to your claims)</p>
<p>I can give you the source of my statistics too, if you want. Again, not a HUGE difference, but still statistically significant. Vanderbilt gets the nod.</p>
<p>Oh, and, next time, jkh411, let's try not to purposely distort the facts, yeah? If you're gonna take the numbers of JUST Emory College and compare them to Vanderbilt, then take Vandy's A&S numbers as well. Apples to apples.</p>
<p>pick Vanderbilt</p>
<p>I'm only comparing CDS to CDS... which is seemingly justified. Not that I need to justify the debate, however, my contributions have merely been to discourage trying to distinguish the schools based on SAT scores, as well as to discourage people from commmenting on social and academic aspects that only an enrolled student could adequately describe.</p>
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Incredible, you ought not post when you don't know what you are saying. First, as I've discussed the SAT range is higher for Emory, but not by a noticable amount.
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<p>emory SAT ranges are not higher, oxford students are guaranteed transfer to emory and thus are part of their class. They will be present in the classroom, and included in the grading curve.</p>
<p>and yeah, what avant-garde said.</p>
<p>Then Cornell should get penalized a bunch.</p>
<p>They have a guarunteed transfer option for some kids on the edge.</p>
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Then Cornell should get penalized a bunch.</p>
<p>They have a guarunteed transfer option for some kids on the edge.
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<p>firstly, the amount of students "guaranteed transfer" to cornell is "small"
<a href="http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=1091077200%5B/url%5D">http://ezra.cornell.edu/posting.php?timestamp=1091077200</a></p>
<p>that's different from the 700 students in oxford college, or 14% of emory's class.</p>
<p>secondly, emory has regular transfers too, outside of the oxford college guaranteed admits, it admitted 136 of them last year:
<a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=539&profileId=1%5B/url%5D">http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=539&profileId=1</a></p>
<p>thirdly, the "guaranteed transfer" program to cornell is founded on students who would have been competitive to gain admission to cornell as freshman, yet there simply weren't enough spots, we can not be sure without exact data, but it is highly likely that their SAT average would have been higher than the 1220 average of oxford college, considering that cornell's SAT average is 1385.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emory.edu/OXFORD/Admission/classprofile.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.emory.edu/OXFORD/Admission/classprofile.html</a>
<a href="http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=15&profileId=6%5B/url%5D">http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=15&profileId=6</a></p>