<p>I’m a transfer student, and I’m trying to decide between schools until some *******s hijacked my thread.
Why are there so many damn insecure posters on here bringing in other schools? There are about 2 posts that have been relevant with useful information.
And yes I’m talking USnews obviously, the one that is held in most respect by 99% of prospective students and their parents.</p>
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<p>That is beside the point. The point is at the moment, the top employers who usually have an extremely high set of standards for hiring, and who happen to pay more, do not view Vanderbilt as a top target school. That’s the point here. If Vanderbilt is prestigious enough like what Duke has managed to achieve – being able to stand side-by-side the Ivies, Vanderbilt would have a good representation at those top banks. It does not matter where these banks will end up in the future. Perhaps these banks will go away and the new ones will come in. Regardless, these new employers would still likely get talents from the HYPSM, Ivies + Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Berkeley, Michigan, Virginia, UCLA and the like due to the superfluous brand name that they carry. I do not question the claim that Vanderbilt is a good school for undergrad. But a lot of schools can lay to the same claim. The question here is: Do they have the brand power that the Ivies have? </p>
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I do. Check this out. [Harvard</a> Number One University in Eyes of Public](<a href=“http://www.gallup.com/poll/9109/harvard-number-one-university-eyes-public.aspx]Harvard”>http://www.gallup.com/poll/9109/harvard-number-one-university-eyes-public.aspx)</p>
<p>Aside from that, the absence of a Vanderbilt alum at the top 3 MBA programs in the world is indicative enough of the school’s weak prestige level. The low level of salaries of Vanderbilt graduates is also an indication of Vanderbilt’s weak school prestige. Aside from that, </p>
<p>Vanderbilt is also viewed less by the academic people. Its PA Score is 4.0. In contrast, Duke has 4.4, Cornell has 4.5. And Berkeley, the school the OP viewed as the inferior school to Vanderbilt, has 4.7, a score just .1 shy away to leveling Yale.<br>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/8993340-post1.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/8993340-post1.html</a></p>
<p>There’s also a ranking of school prestige on a global scope. Look where Vanderbilt stand vis-a-vis the Ivies, Duke and Berkeley. [The</a> World’s Most Reputable Universities - Forbes](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2012/03/14/the-worlds-most-reputable-universities/2/]The”>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacquelynsmith/2012/03/14/the-worlds-most-reputable-universities/2/)</p>
<p>Lol, yeah. Calling a school public without even calling it bad is just as bad as the holocaust and slavery. get a grip</p>
<p>LOL god DAMNIT dude get out of my thread.</p>
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<p>Stanford is hand’s down superior to Berkeley in almost, if not all, respect. Stanford is more generous, has better funding, superior brand name locally and internationally, better facilities, better grad placements, equally superior faculty line up, richer, more beautiful campus, etc, etc, in the same location. That said, aside from HYPM, which school can compete with Stanford? I guess none.</p>
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<p>Boorish, rude… your’e not even fit for either Vanderbilt or Berkeley. lol</p>
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<p>How does that favor Vanderbilt? That only goes to show that Vanderbilt does not have enough resources and facilities to accommodate more talented students. </p>
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I have a different view on this. I think that most students at Vanderbilt are there because they couldn’t get into the Ivies. I doubt if many more students would rather enroll in Vanderbilt than in, say, Columbia or Dartmouth.</p>
<p>There is one ranking that matters and one ranking only, and that is USnews. For most people, I’d ballpark around 95%, only cares about that. In that sense, Vanderbilt trumps Berkely. plus Vanderbilt being private plus its reputation of being elite which is generally not associated with Berkely (sorry), and Vanderbilt’s low acceptance (only behind duke in the south). </p>
<p>Oh and the budget cuts in cali. ouch. </p>
<p>Berkely is a great institution, I have many intelligent (mostly Asian) friends there. It is a great feeder into silicon valley because of its location and many banks from the west coast hire Haas kids. But in terms of everything else and I’m talking about lifestyle, the new constructions going on their campus. At a school the size of Berkely, there is no way the the lifestyle there is better in terms of dorm and dining and things of that nature.</p>
<p>But mostly, there is the one objective ranking that settles this, and that’s usnews. Once Berkely can be called a top 20 school then come talk to me.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/848154-rml-rankings.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/848154-rml-rankings.html</a></p>
<p>lmao RML you are really shameless. I really do hope you work for Berkeley, because if you don’t I feel sad for your existence. You are either getting paid good money to spread BS propaganda about Berkely for FOUR years straight or you just have no life and super insecure about your public school. It’s not top 20, get over it, man.</p>
<p>diaosi, you’re showing an immeasurable amount of immaturity on this very thread that you yourself created. You asked for our opinion. Now that the kind of opinion you’re getting does not align with the one that’s already in your mind, you’re quick to denounce the posters. Let me tell you this. You’re only fooling yourself if you honestly and seriously believe that you can get many opinion that exactly mirrors your thoughts. If you didn’t want to know where Vanderbilt really stand in the hierarchy of America’s higher education, then you should not have been too foolish to ask for it in the first place. </p>
<p>Again, Vanderbilt is – without a doubt – a good school. I didn’t say it’s not. But like what I said, a lot of schools can lay to the same claim. So, the more relevant question now is: Does Vanderbilt have the prestige that the Ivies have? The answer to that is, NO. So, deal with it and stop being so childish!</p>
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<p>Oh, look–Vanderbilt is ranked higher than three Ivies, according to your own methodology in a compilation of these three sources:</p>
<p>National Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report
America’s Best Colleges - Forbes.com
<a href=“http://mup.asu.edu/research2008.pdf[/url]”>http://mup.asu.edu/research2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>*This is from the thread the OP linked above.</p>
<p>Sally305, this was the ranking I created. This was the ranking I trusted. <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/9536615-post118.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/9536615-post118.html</a></p>
<p>The one you referenced was simply a combination of 4 major league tables. I did that only out of curiosity, but the methodology was obviously unsound.</p>
<p>Who cares which is better? They are both great schools.</p>
<p>Sorry, RML, but that is an equally silly ranking with very flawed methodology.</p>
<p>Peer assessment is necessarily going to favor schools that are bigger, older, and have had a good reputation for a long time.</p>
<p>College students will also favor “name-brand” schools as well as their own (which in turn will give bigger institutions a lift)</p>
<p>PayScale will favor institutions with a high number of graduates in high-paying fields (such as finance and computer science)</p>
<p>Average people’s opinions: irrelevant, and will also support more “famous” schools</p>
<p>Next.</p>
<p>RML, who is immature here? The OP did indeed seek the opinions of others, but does not want to hear more about Berkeley. What are you accomplishing by bludgeoning him with your opinion? No wonder the OP gets irritated and starts to use strong words. </p>
<p>You have once more derailed a thread.</p>
<p>I would say Vanderbilt is slightly more prestigious than Berkeley just because its a little more selective but they are certainly comparable at the undergraduate level.</p>
<p>OP- as someone who has been in the business and legal world for many, many years, I can assure you that Vanderbilt is highly regarded by employers. There are many places to work besides NYC, and Vanderbilt has plenty of prestige. In fact, my son got his first job out of college with a large, well-known tech company in a very fun southwestern city through the Vanderbilt job board, even though he was a Penn student. The company doesn’t bother to recruit in the northeast but focuses on UVA, Michigan, Emory, Vanderbilt etc. </p>
<p>Nashville is a great city and you will have fun and get a great education at Vanderbilt.</p>
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<p>It depends on where you go. In the South, Vanderbilt is more prestigious. In California (and the West Coast in general), Berkeley is more highly regarded. Again, prestige is regional.</p>
<p>thread derailed once again by RML. thanks a lot buddy.</p>
<p>I believe my last post was about Vanderbilt and how it is compared to the Ivies. Like what I repeatedly said, OP, Vanderbilt couldn’t even match Cornell’s prestige, let alone HYP, so stop wishing, hallucinating, daydreaming… that Vanderbilt overall prestige = Ivies. Maybe in the future it will be. But at the moment, it’s not. Not a single Vanderbilt alum has even gotten into the top 3 MBA schools. That, to me, shows how weak its reputation to the top employers. Meantime, those top 3 business schools have a horde of Ivy products. That is not to say Vanderbilt isn’t prestigious. It is. But it is not comparable to the Ivies. There’s only one school in the South that we can honestly say has the Ivy’s prestige, and that’s Duke.</p>