Vanderbilt vs. Ivy league

<p>Considering that Vandy is tied in the US News & World Report ranking with Notre Dame @ #17, it’s a fabulous school. Regardless of the "reputation"of Ivy’s - there is also another reputation that goes with them that is not great :wink: My DS would much rather go with Vandy than any Ivy school as a physics/engineering major. It’s all on where you live, what you are looking for, etc. Any of the top 25 schools are going to give you a big advantage with education and potential job/academic opportunities.</p>

<p>RML, in that case, Hopkins and Michigan can’t be seen as being equal in prestige to the Ivies either. Agreed?</p>

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<p>Do you REALLY know how accurate your last statement is? How can you be sure that no Commodore has ever gotten in the top 3 MBA schools? But it really does not matter.</p>

<p>What matter is that you really do not seem to understand some basic concepts. Perhaps it is due to the great distance between your home and the United States. Or perhaps that you have never attended a school here in the US. Or perhaps you simply fail to understand that prestige is entirely in the eye of the beholder. </p>

<p>Why is so hard to understand that for many Catholics, there are only two schools … and they are Notre Dame and Notre Dame again? Why is it so hard to understand that in the heart of Texas, for many there are only two colors in the rainbow and those are burnt orange and marroon? Do you know what they call a fifth year Aggie in Texas? They call him or her … BOSS! </p>

<p>You could go through every state and find out that people feel the same way about Michigan, Nebraska, Alabama, or Ol’ Miss. Go to the library and rent some video such as the Blind Side or Rudy, and you will start to understand that most students do not measure the LOCAL prestige through the lenses of distorted and bias rankings. </p>

<p>Regarding Vanderbilt, let me share that at two of the very best high schools in the country I am very familiar with, there is plenty of talks about the Ivy League. But you better believe that an admission at Vandy means a LOT more than one at Cornell, which could be seen as an exile in a very remote area of the US. Not to mention that more than one sees Cornell as a public school with a good hotel program! Obviously, those views might be biased or a tad ignorant, but that is what it is. </p>

<p>You really should make a small effort to understand those regional or local idiosyncracies, especially if you want your voice to be heard in a positive way.</p>

<p>Vandy is a great school with a great reputation in a really fun city with pretty darn good weather.</p>

<p>Visit. If it is for You, you will love it and your degree will serve you very, very well. I speak from experience.</p>

<p>Oh, and Vandy undergrads have gotten into the best grad schools.</p>

<p>Score another for xiggi. No, really.</p>

<p>Prestige for the most part is local IMO except for HYP. Living in the south, I can tell you that Vanderbilt is the most prestigious school in all of the southeast even trumping Duke except for in NC. Vanderbilt is a wet dream for most southern families, but Duke has a greater drawn nationally. It also has an amazing reputation in the southwest, with only Rice probably having a better reputation in Texas. Same with Notre Dame attracting so many Catholic families in the midwest and Georgetown attracting a lot of rich boarding school kids from the northeast. Even Stanford to some extent (especially in the past, changed quite a bit recently) had mostly just kids from Cali.</p>

<p>And why does RML keep saying I’m hallucinating and daydreaming about saying Vanderbilt=Ivies? I’ve never said that and that was the question of my thread until you derailed by bringing in your Berkeley propaganda. dude you are a ******* (srs)</p>

<p>Also, obviously I know that HYP>Vanderbilt. My question was more focused on how it stacks up against the rest. And to some extent I actually agree with what you posted in your last post.</p>

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<p>lol… Tell that to yourself! </p>

<p>My first post has no mention of Berkeley. My second post was the same. Until you responded and posted this:</p>

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Make a thread for this and I will answer it there.</p>

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<p>Okay; You have a point. But what’s the likeliness of a HSW admit enrolling somewhere else?</p>

<p>Are you insane, RML? I know you think that Berkeley is all that and more, but you really don’t get it … once you get outside California, people don’t really have strong impressions of UCLA or Berkeley other than sports associations for UCLA and leftover-hippie associations of Berkeley. Anyway, why do you drag Berekely into everything? The OP didn’t even ask about Berkeley?</p>

<p>OP - Vanderbilt is an excellent school; the Vandy grads I know have OUTSTANDING jobs and do quite well. Whether it does or doesn’t do well at Goldman Sachs, McKinsey, BCG, etc. is only of consequence to the types of unsophisticated people who think that the sun rises and sets on a few industries/companies, and who haven’t a clue that there is a big, big world outside of them. Don’t sweat it for an instant if Vandy appeals to you. It has more than enough prestige among the people who matter.</p>

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<p>I personally know several Vanderbilt undergrads who went to Kellogg for b-school. Vandy is a top 20 school that totally deserves its top 20 status.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/883088-can-small-name-school-develop-professional-school-would-someday.html?highlight=rml+drycleaner#post9919720[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/883088-can-small-name-school-develop-professional-school-would-someday.html?highlight=rml+drycleaner#post9919720&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This tells you all you need to know.</p>

<p>^^ Are you insane, Pizzagirl? I already stopped mentioning Berkeley. Don’t be so quick and jump into a discussion without making sure you’re following it.</p>

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When did I say it’s not? Come on show me a post I made where I said Vanderbilt isn’t a good school? </p>

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<p>But those companies are as discriminating as you could ever possibly think. They determine which schools are prestigious and which schools are not. They pick the very best and pay them well. The top grads of the best of the best schools would dream of becoming a part of such “exclusive” and prestigious network. </p>

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<p>As the records will show, not for those people in banking/finance industry.</p>

<p>Not sure why everyone’s jumping on RML. The OP’s clearly just a Vanderbilt booster who won’t be satisfied by anything other than ‘Yes, Vanderbilt is like an Ivy league school.’ The OP came off in his earlier posts as pretty disrespectful. This was witnessed by myself, Alexandre, and RML.</p>

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<p>Actually that’s not true.</p>

<p>[Harvard</a> Number One University in Eyes of Public](<a href=“http://www.gallup.com/poll/9109/harvard-number-one-university-eyes-public.aspx]Harvard”>http://www.gallup.com/poll/9109/harvard-number-one-university-eyes-public.aspx)</p>

<p>These schools have a weak pull in the Midwest and the South, but the opposite could be said of Midwestern and Southern universities.</p>

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<p>Those anecdotes are probably said of any school that’s ranked in the top 30 of US News. Nothing special about Vanderbilt here.</p>

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<p>It’s really generally a top 30 school outside US News. Vanderbilt looks like its just another university that plays the number games.</p>

<p>c.f. [Vanderbilt</a> University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“Vanderbilt University - Wikipedia”>Vanderbilt University - Wikipedia)</p>

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<p>Actually, pretty sure Vandy isn’t on here ;)</p>

<p>[The</a> World’s Most Powerful People - Forbes](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/powerful-people/]The”>The World's Most Powerful People 2018)</p>

<p>Conclusion: yes Vanderbilt is a fine university (in fact, an excellent one.) No, i would not compare it to the Ivy league, and no i do not consider it to be significantly better than the UC Flagships (LA and Cal) or Duke. It’s peers were stated pretty well by Alexandre, but i’d (personally) also add USC into the mix.</p>

<p>Let me debunk this one:

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<p>Larry Wilson was CEO of Rohm and Haas Company for eleven years. RandH was a Fortune 500 specialty chemical company that Dow Chemical purchased three years ago for >$16 Billion. Larry got his mechanical engineering degree at Vandy and then went to Harvard Business School after a stint in the Navy. I am sure there are countless other examples.</p>

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What about Hopkins, UNC, and Michigan? Are they peers of Vanderbilt?</p>

<p>Personally, I care most about the caliber of students attending schools. By that measure (using SAT scores as a rough point of comparison), Vanderbilt is pretty close to Duke, and better than Cornell. You can look on the College Board site to compare with others. (All three of those are substantially better than Berkeley by this measure, by the way.)</p>

<p>^^^ I stand corrected. What I wanted to say was that the current student make up (enrolled students) of the top 3 business schools (HSW) does not include a single Vandy grad. Though it seems not that important for many of you here (including the OP), it actually indicates how Vandy grads are viewed by the top employers and top business schools. Therefore, if the OP was thinking of taking such career path (banking/finance) later on, I’m afraid Vandy wouldn’t be the best place for him to do it. And, this is where the schools I’ve lobbied (Ivies and such) have the leg up.</p>

<p>I wonder if the OP feels as though his question was answered?
It is probably moot unless he actually got into an Ivy and Vanderbilt and was trying to decide ;-)</p>