<p>I think college admissions are hardest for middle class.</p>
<p>Lower class: boost for first gen, low income, URMs
Upper class: Legacies, Development cases, prep schools=boost
(another point is that ivies are looking for future successes)</p>
<p>these colleges take their core upper class kids, throw in lower class for diversity, but middle class gets left in the cold. i was just thinking about how college admissions shun the middle class. thoughts?</p>
<p>Middle class has nothing to offer. Not minorities, not rich. No practical reason to accept them.</p>
<p>Middle class also faces problems in terms of actually paying for college...not "low-income" enough to receive substantial aid, but not "high-income" enough to pay tuition without any problems.</p>
<p>Not everyone from the lower class is a first gen or an URM.</p>
<p>Do you really think the lower class has it easier? Really?</p>
<p>In life in general, being part of the lower class must be hard. But in the college admissions process specifically, it's a boon. There is also a recent push for socioeconomic diversity, low income by itself can be a hook.</p>
<p>yeah I'm in the middle class but overall its def harder for the lower class. Plus, there are a lot of rich and well off URMs.</p>
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im a middle class minority</p>
<p>The evidence is overwhelming that the poorer the high school student, the less likely it is that the student will even start college, or go to a good college, or finish college. There is still a HUGE advantage in being "middle class" rather than poor. It's much more likely that a dumb rich person will go to college than a smart poor person. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ff0615S.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/ff0615S.pdf</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/carnrose.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/carnrose.pdf</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/kahlenberg-affaction.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.tcf.org/Publications/Education/kahlenberg-affaction.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Cost</a> Remains a Key Obstacle to College Access </p>
<p>A</a> Thumb on the Scale (May-June 2005) </p>
<p>BW</a> Online | July 7, 2003 | Needed: Affirmative Action for the Poor</p>
<p>I'm talking about elite college admissions tokenadult</p>
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<p>Geore W. Bush is an example</p>
<p>oh shutup.george bush is not stupid.</p>
<p>566 verbal and 640 math is not stupid in my book; maybe mediocre or average, but not outright dumb.</p>
<p>^ That's what bush got on the SAT?</p>
<p>^ plus remember scores back then were deflated. We learned this in psych, to adjust to flynn affect. So you can tack on almost 100 points to his score to see his current score today out of 1600. 1300+ is by no means dumb.</p>
<p>Middle class people have nothing to mope about in comparison to poor people.</p>
<p>My guess is that if you looked at the demographics of students at the elite colleges, you would find that the majority of them are middle class. I don't know that, but I think I am right.</p>
<p>I think it’s harder to pay for college if you're middle class.</p>
<p>Many schools are missing kids from the middle, especially schools that do not give merit scholarship. By middle, I am referring to people that are not eligible for aide, and can't afford to pay 50,000. It is very noticeable. At my daughter's school, there are a lot of kids that have a lot, and kids that don't even have money for coffee. To have diversity, I think those schools need to do a better job of helping families in the middle, or you are going to have a community of haves and have nots. What Harvard and Yale are doing is great, I hope Cornell and other schools will follow soon.</p>
<p>at Harvard, 25% make under 80,000. 75% make more than 80,000.</p>
<p>What is everyone's definition of "middle class" here? That usually starts some lively discussion, when people compare what "middle" feels like in one part of the country to what if feels like in another place.</p>