<p>^^^the only thing that may cause a problem is if the OP used any financial aid or saholarships to fund his schooling...he/she will, to be sure, be caught if he/she needs funding again for the new school.</p>
<p>It's a bad idea to apply as a freshman. In your essay, tell them how much you would like to have the chance to start over again, and that you made a mistake that you've learned from. Emphasize that you now know what you are looking for, and that you are more mature. As some have advised, you should try to raise your GPA befor applying for transfer so that the ad-officers can "see" that you are serious.</p>
<p>a 1.5 is incredibly bad, i dont even think u could use that transcript as toilet paper</p>
<p>so bball lets here more about this kid getting put on academic probation with a 2.5 at duke,.... cause i sure as hell don't believe the story</p>
<p>I would suggest going to a community college for at least a year. If you earn high grades at a CC, your transfer school will forget about your past grades.</p>
<p>Part of the problem with "starting new" is that OP would have to explain what s/he has been doing over the past 2 years. In addition they are still going to need recommendations which means now getting others to coroborate the lie he is willing to tell. Does s/he really want to spend time constantly looking over his/her shoulder. </p>
<p>If the student has received any kind of federal aid, it will show up when when s/he applies for FA at the new school.</p>
<p>Misrepresentation is grounds for rescinding your admission and your degree after graduation leaving a person with a worthless peice of paper. </p>
<p>I can tell you first hand from 20 years of HR exerience, we do extensively check the creditials of prospective employees (including credit backgrounds where your student loan info comes up), and evn if the misrepresentation comes up later, my company has terminated the employee.</p>
<p>He will have to get information from his former high school and do you think that the GC is really going to put their job/integrity on the line for hisl lie.</p>
<p>I agree with spike mom, that OP should look into changing majors within RPI.</p>
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<p>while the student may have an over all GPA of 2.5 they can be placed on academic probation for having a term where the failed 1 to 2 classes or got a string of D's.</p>
<p>Dartmouth does the same thing, for example: if a student gets a D and a F or 3 D's in the same term regardless of what the GPA is the student will be placed on academic probation. If a student fails 2 courses in the same term, they will be suspended for the term and must appeal to the committee on standards.</p>
<p>i do not know the exact details, i think sbbie is correct, when my friend told me this, i was like how badly did u do, he is like i got "aroud a 2.5"</p>
<p>While it likely won't come up, there would be some very serious results if a school discovered you decided to leave out a year and a half of school. Many universities do have policies against applying as a Freshmen when you're indeed not. I would strongly reccomend against taking that kind of risk.</p>
<p>You will never again get into a school as highly regarded as RPI. Take what you have and take advantage of it. After you have your bachelor's it won't matter what your grades are (except for grad sdhool, but that's another issue).</p>
<p>think about it, some businessses are going as far as to check your SAT scores, so imagine how easy it would to be able to find out about your past college experiences</p>
<p>Is it true that your past grades don't show up (in California)???</p>
<p>I wanted to start a fresh plate but I could't.
I was in a similar situation in a UC and now attending a CC hoping to transfer to a 4 year college after completing transfer requirements here.
What I was told(from many counselors in different CC's)is that your SS number will give the people at the admission of the school you apply the entire history(not necessarily they have the right to view the grades) of your education after high school graduation.
And your FAFSA history will not just disappear.</p>
<p>I also heard of another stories some people attended multiple CC's and didn't report some grades from a CC and admissions never knew.
Is it just different from Univ.?</p>
<p>And these kind of policies differ in states?</p>
<p>CC's are different, they dont require anything really to enroll unless u need to show proof of a prereq for a class..universities will check your whole record and require you to have previous transcripts sent to them...any UC or CSU will require all your document before they can make an admissions decision</p>
<p>so what the ppl mention above about how some ppl hid their first Univ. grades and got into another univ. without submitting the transcript is an old story or just luck?</p>
<p>elleohelle,
I really hope that's true.</p>
<p>Don't blame me if you try the following and get caught. But this is how I would do it if I wanted to "start fresh".</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Put the strictest do not release privacy hold on your record at your old school. Preferably, a hold that means an inquiry would result in, "I cannot confirm or deny whether student xyz ever attended our university." Most school will reveal your name, major, dates of attendance, high school, degree earned, and stuff like that. Only your actual grades are protected and require your permission unless you do something about it.</p></li>
<li><p>When you applied to a CC, they asked you what previous colleges you have attended. In many cases, that information goes directly onto your transcript. You will want to order your own transcript from the CC and see what's on it if you told the truth on the original CC application. The transcript you see on the web isn't good enough. Order the real thing on paper and find out.</p></li>
<li><p>As previously mentioned, your FAFSA history will give you away if you ever received financial aid. You probably won't want to apply for financial aid as you enter your admit year. You might not want to apply for financial aid until after your bachelor's degree is conferred.</p></li>
<li><p>Do not transfer in any units or use coursework from the hidden school to fulfill any requirements or prereq.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>so it doesn't do anything with SS#?</p>
<p>On my online grade view thing, they calculated my gpa in three different ways: Bachelor Level total / CSU total / IGETC total</p>
<p>And CSU and IGETC total gpa are the same.
Does this mean CSU will view grades like this when I apply?</p>
<p>don't lie. it's not worth it, especially on something as big as this. What if you get caugt two or three years later down the line?</p>
<p>As others have mentioned, I would seriously look into a CC, then from there, hopefully a well regarded state school. But thats only if you dont want to switch majors within RPI. Talk to some counselor's there, they'll know how toguide you.</p>
<p>Personally, do what you think is BEST for you. If you feel that you should start over, do it. Apply to the school of your choice as a freshman, and use your HS record. Forget that you even went to your former school. It's your life after all. At the end of the day, it's you and you alone. No one else.</p>
<p>but he could graduate in 5 years from a school, and then have this come back to haunt him if they revoked his admissions</p>