<p>Interesting article. </p>
<p>Wow, less than 10% of their funding comes from the state. They are required to take what, at least 18% state residents, or is that UNC-CH? Does anyone know what the average or typical %age of flagship state university funding comes from the state's legislature? I noticed that in Va the %age was much higher 5 years ago.</p>
<p>W & M takes 65% from in-state, 35% out of state. The part of this article that caught my eye was the potential for tuition to rise 8-10% per year for 5 years at the schools in question (UVA, W & M, VT). Tuition/fees are already around 22K for out-of-state, so - ouch.</p>
<p>I realized when I re-read my post, I didn't write that correctly - one of these universities can take no more than 18% Out Of State - I think it's Chapel Hill anyway. Yes, the outcome of this will be big tuition increases.
You mean W & M takes 35% of their students from out of state, correct?
In my home state, I cannot imagine the legislature passing such a measure - the debate about whether or not that is the right thing to do aside, the legislators would never want to give up control of the university system, although at less than 10% financing, I don't know how much control they could have at UVa.</p>
<p>Actually Frazzled, it's even higher than that. One reason my son did not attend William and Mary was because we are out of state and it would have been 28K for him to go according to the aid package, and that was with the 2K they knocked off for "need." We were also looking ahead to the state funding issues and anticipated steep tuition hikes in the next few years. </p>
<p>When I was at UVa it was 2/3 in-state, 1/3 out.</p>
<p>What I wasn't quite sure of is whether the 8-10% would be across the board or just for in-state (due to the fact that they would have less of a state subsidy). I agree, 8-10% tacked on top of the out of state tuition would be be an "ouch".</p>
<p>VA taxpayer weighing in...No way does this privitization effort make sense.</p>
<p>btw UNC is chartered to provide 82% in-state.</p>
<p>In researching W&M, I noticed several articles about the low pay for professors. W&M is definitely on the low end of the pay scale among comparable colleges, resulting in them losing several good professors.</p>
<p>Dudedad is right, ALL North Carolina State schools can only have 16 - 18% out of state. The exact percentage number varies by legislature mandate every year.</p>
<p>I wish Penn State had some sort of state mandate. They say there is no preference given for admission whether you are in state our out of state.</p>
<p>"One reason my son did not attend William and Mary was because we are out of state and it would have been 28K for him to go according to the aid package, and that was with the 2K they knocked off for "need.""</p>
<p>Hi, texastaximom - did this figure include room & board? I ask because d will graduate from W & M this spring, and I <em>hope</em> we haven't been paying that much for tuition alone all this time, lol. The 22K figure I mentioned above was for tuition & fees only - with room & board, it's closer to 28K this year. It was considerably less when she started, maybe in the neighborhood of 21K. So very sorry to read about the likelihood of substantial tuition hikes at these VA schools in the future, as my current senior likes UVA very much. If she's accepted and enrolls, I'll have to ask myself (and husband) - exactly why do we live in New York? Not that it would be the first time he's heard me ask it.</p>
<p>Yes that was for the "whole ball of wax" as they say. I have a cousin that is a soph at William and Mary and they pay substantially less. It's an awesome deal in-state. At least in my opinion. </p>
<p>We didn't push UVa at our house particularly because of the out-of-state tution. My husband is also a UVa alum and he's from Rockville Centre. I think NY has one of the highest percentages of out-of-staters at UVa. </p>
<p>Another thing that has bothered us is that UVa has moved towards "big athletics"...recuriting kids that have to be remediated because they are so behind, yet they will reject a strong academic applicant that is not athletic. While that is par for the course at some of the big athletic schools, it never used to be this way at UVa. We are very disappointed.</p>
<p>I think Uva runs a very solid athletic dept and the graduation rate for athletes is among the highest in D-1. The number of risky recruits is trivial in a school of 14,000 and some blossom under the opportunity.</p>
<p>Perhaps some do, and then others end up being tried for plagarism and other academic infractions. That's what happened to several basketball players back in the 80s when I was there. They couldn't keep up. </p>
<p>It's just sad to see so many qualified people turned away. Some of the latest recruits do not even carry 1000 on the SAT.</p>
<p>Of course W&M, UVa and VT should go charter. Look at the facts. Cry babies in the legislature don't want to pay for good schools so it is only natural for schools like W&M and UVa to lobby for more autonomy. </p>
<p>Furthermore, this move is not privitization. The state of Virginia will still own every inch of each of these schools. I am not sure if this idea is so good for land grant VT, but for W&M and UVa, if they want to continue to compete with elite privates, they HAVE to do this. On the other hand, if Virginia funded these schools like California and North Carolina manage to fund their colleges and universities, we wouldn't be having this argument. The fact is, a high aid-high tuition model is a logical next step for WM and UVa. Within a decade or so, both schools will save so much money and continue to build their endowments, increase research, pay profs more money and provide a better educational experience for Virginians and OOS students.</p>
<p>All of the UNC system - all 16 of them - have a ceiling of 18-20% out-of-state acceptance rates - and any increase is an across the board one - ALL students (in-state/out-of-state) experience the same tuition/fees increase as mandated by the state legislature - we are presently in the first year of a 3 year increase plan - UNC-CH having the highest one of $300/year for 3 years - others are rated for $250ish or $200ish increases per year x3 years - depending on the standing of the school. </p>
<p>One good thing about NC is that ALL students in the public university sytem are supported by Public Support of Educational Funds - to the toon of over $8000++ per student - per year. (NC education funds are supported by the tobacco and cotton industries.) Sure keeps the tuition/fees reasonable!!!</p>
<p>One thing to keep in mind is that the percentage of state funding will vary grately whether you look at the all-funds budget or the general fund budget. This makes a pretty huge difference if the University has a medical center affiliated with it.</p>
<p>I have been hearing this talk about UVA's school of business for years now.</p>
<p>Uva's law and graduate business are essentially financially independent. Instaters get a small break on tuition.</p>
<p>I am not referring to the graduate business school. My friend is a business major (undergraduate) from UVA. I believe you have to apply to that major after you finish some basic requirement at UVA--cannot go directly into the program.</p>
<p>That is correct. Typical at most good ug schools.</p>