Virginia Tech VS UMass Amherst VS ASU AS Penn State VS UIC

Yes, UMass is considered one of the best in the country.

@shivng It’s not your decision to get to stay in the US after the degree. A student visa is not a work visa. You need to sponsored by an employer, and given current climate regarding immigration, that may or may not be feasible, especially with only an undergrad degree.

Who’s is going to cosign a loan for 25k a year? Do you have a parent in the US?

The most prudent approach I see is to get the undergrad in India and come here for a Master’s. The universities you have listed are all quite rigorous and love your out of state money more than they love you. Domestic students in CS and engineering programs at those places will have higher SATs and overall better prep. Lots of weeding out. Just so you are aware.

OP got into Penn State in Harrisburg, not the big campus. I would NOT go to Harrisburg. The main Penn State campus is 86 miles north in State College, PA.

Pick U Mass or VT. They are both in semi rural locations, I prefer U Mass Amherst for its really strong computer science teachers, and research, and because you can
also take classes at 5 smaller liberal arts colleges, in a cross registration process. I think Massachusetts
does a lot of great things for their public schools. Also U Mass is stronger in the sciences, especially polymer science, and physics.

the thing is that I have not decided which major I will go into
 I know that it will be science related cause I love science, but I don’t like coding that much
Though I like computers. Since I got accepted in UMass and VT first-year undecided program, I thought I will make up my mind in college. I also plan to stay in the US. I don’t know how valid the rankings are because I think those are for graduate students
 Still, I want to go into a good college since I will be spending so much money anyway and I don’t think that $10,000/peryear will matter much in the long term. I wanna make smart friends cause I want to build a startup, open my own company or something like that. According to the rankings in THE -
Computer Science -
UMASS 65
ASU 100-125
VT 125-150

Engineering and Tech
VT 75
UMass 100-125
ASU 100-125

In QS -
Computer Science & Information Systems
UMass 100-150
VT - 150-200
ASU - 150-200

Electrical & Electronic
VT 50-100
ASU 150-200
UMass 200-250

Mechanical, Aeronautical & Manufacturing
VT 50-100
ASU 150-200
UMASS - 250-300

I am actually asking you guys on this form because as an international student, I don’t have much idea about these universities. Also which university was better job placements?

I also love to partake in activities as well, like music and tennis. These are my top three choices, I am discarding UIC and Penn State Harrisburg. Can you help me choose one of these??

Arizona State is a very large school, pluses and minuses there. Tennis will be year round in Arizona. Phoenix has a symphony if you mean listening options.

Since you are entrepreneurial, look at Technology transfer groups at each university. Technology transfer is a department that helps universities to patent ideas and start companies.

I think you are going to need a masters degree, to stay in the USA, so you may want to look at which schools lead to masters degrees more frequently. My sense is U Mass Amherst is best for that.

Virginia Tech is more of a school that leads to a job. You cannot get a job straight away, you need more education because you are from India and will not get a work visa straight away from a bachelors degree. If you earn a masters or PhD, then you are likely to be able to stay in the USA.

Would you want to become a college professor in engineering? There is always a shortage of professionals with PhDs who want to teach engineering in the USA. Thus many international academics in the USA.

Were you admitted “undecided” everywhere?
It changes EVERYTHING because for some of these it’s impossible to enter some colleges or majors if you’re not a direct admit
 (Ie., forget Umass CS).

My family is okay taking a big loan, and if worst comes, which it won’t, they will be able to pay it back.

Look up rankings for ai. The future of cs. Grad and ug. UMass Amherst is considered by many to be number one. Informatics too.

It’s a diverse place. International students and stem nerds lol are definitely welcome!

@privatebanker: however, OP was NOT admitted for CS, but as “undeclared”, which means his odds of making it into CS are very slim.
(I, too, advocated for UMass until OP indicated he’d not been admitted for CS!)

well I guess VT it is then

@MYOS1634 My bad. Sorry op. Myos is 100 percent right.

Did you get into VT as “undeclared”?
Do you know the conditions to get into any of your majors at VT?
Would you be ok majoring in something non technical, whether arts&sciences or business?

For reference, these are the requirements to declare any Engineering major at VT if you’ve not been admitted as an Engineering major or as pre Engineering/Engineering undecided:
https://enge.vt.edu/content/dam/enge_vt_edu/undergraduate/coe_com.pdf
There’s one class that you can only take in the Spring and you won’t be able to take any CS or science class (except those classes offered to non majors).

@shivng Read what myos1364 has written. Please note that undeclared major is not the same as being directly admitted to a major. Earlier I had mentioned that the applicant pool is competitive for CS and Engineering. The fact you were accepted undeclared makes sense now, as your SAT score seemed low to me for a scholarship.
My kid , domestic applicant , got a scholarship but undeclared admission at a similar level university. He chose a direct admit to CS at another university.

You will not be able to change majors easily, especially in CS and Engineering. Especially at VT and UMass Amherst.

If you’re okay majoring in arts and sciences st these places,then maybe okay.

At ASU, did you get direct admit to CS or engineering? If so, that may be your best choice.

@MYOS1634 Thank you for the link to the VT requirements for entry into engineering. This will delay the time required for the degree, provided OP can jump through all the hoops listed, adding more dollars for tuition. With a student visa, OP will not even be able to get a small part time job for extra spending money. OP doesn’t seem to be aware of these limitations.

Yeah I have been accepted into VT college of engineering. The thing is that VT does not let you choose a major in the first year and UMass letter says that I have been accepted into college of engineering as well. In asu, I was accepted into computer systems and engineering.

Also, which ranking system is the most trustworthy for undergraduates? THE or QS or some other one??

Please indicate (in one post) which college you’ve been admitted to at each university. We’ve just wasted a lot of time trying to help you without relevant information and it’s very important.
Undecided in COE is not the same as undecided which is not the same as being admitted to a pre-major.
None of these rankings is trustworthy for undergraduates.
You could look at US news and world report, there a general ranking of undergraduate programs and I think they have a dedicated engineering ranking.
Why do you need these rankings? To find a job in your home country? To determine quality?

ASU - Computer systems and engineering - College of engineering.
VT - College of engineering - first-year undecided like everybody and then declare a major in 2nd year.
UMass - College of engineering - first-year undecided and then declare a major in the 2nd year.

I need the rankings to determine quality.
I have the money to pay back my loans.
I don’t like coding. And I will most probably go into mechanical/electrical but I wanted to keep computer science as an option. The reason is that in my school, I had the highest score in computer science exams so my teacher keeps saying that I can do great in computer science.

At VT you could do electrical, and take CS courses, but the Computer part of the college of engineering is more hardware design, not software/programming. That is the computer science department, which is not in engineering. But as I said, you could take classes in that department as electives.

Computer engineering at VT is a combination of hardware (EE) and software (CS). And if students want to load up on more CS courses they can, depending on room in the schedule.

Yes, straight CS is a different school at VT but I don’t have impression it’d be hard too hard switch to it after freshman year if that’s what OP decided and had good grades, though probably worth further research if he/she thinks that’s likely path.

And yes, all VT students start out in same first-year engineering program b4 declaring major.