Waitlist / Course restrictions question

<p>I'm an incoming freshman for CNR. I want to take Japanese 1A purely out of interest.</p>

<p>The course restrictions for it are as follows:</p>

<p>"This course has no restrictions at the coursewide level.</p>

<p>Seats have been reserved for:</p>

<ol>
<li>Instructor Approval; a Class Entry Code is required to enroll in these seats. (Open)</li>
<li>Students in the College of Letters and Science and Students with a class level of Freshman (Open)</li>
<li>Students in the College of Letters and Science and Students with a class level of Sophomore (Open)"</li>
</ol>

<p>I haven't had my Phase I yet. So my question is, if I try to register Japan 1A, would I be put on the waitlist and then automatically accepted into the class if by the time registration is done, the class isn't filled up yet? Or would I be put on the waitlist and have to get the instructor's approval on the first day of class? Or none of the above?</p>

<p>I only have 12 units planned (Chem 1A/1AL, NST 10, Japan 1A) and am also planning on taking a decal so that I can reach my college minimum of 13 units. Should I also sign up for another class just to be safe and then drop it later if I get into Japanese? I was considering French 3 before I decided on Japanese, and I would be able to fit into a category for that.</p>

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<p>Language classes are a bit special because many of those departments believe that there are too many students trying to take a lower level of the language than their expertise warrants, often their native tongue as well, as a strategy to get an easy A and boost GPAs. </p>

<p>To forestall that as much as possible, they want to speak with and perhaps test each new student, to place them in the appropriate level. In the case of Japanese, I have heard they mainly want to discuss your prior knowledge and background to get a sense of which level is best, given the strong reliance the courses have on a specific set of kanji characters they expect the student to read and write. Someone who speaks the language at home but has not learned any kanji, for example, would probably be placed in the entry level class but if the student had a decent beginners vocabulary including the kanji, they might place the student into a more advanced class. </p>

<p>To implement this goal of aligning students with the right course level, the classes from the language departments use the ‘instructor approval, CEC’ method, with the CEC handed out by whoever speaks with the student to assess level. Since the language departments are based in L&S and L&S does not require an advisor code for each registration until a major is declared, generally the first two years are advisor code free. The two categories allow for those L&S underclassmen students who want to take the class to register directly, while everyone else will presumably have been sent by their advisor to the language department to get in via the CEC. At least, that is how I interpret the list of categories for registration - all we know for sure is that L&S frosh and sophs have a certain number of seats set aside for immediate enrollment, with everyone else, including fresh/sophs when their category is full, will need to get a CEC from the instructor/department. </p>

<p>It is usually best to look up the instructor on the directory and email him/her, as this may be enough to get you a CEC without even a phone call. Explain your background and reason for interest in Japanese. </p>

<p>For language classes, it is best to find the departmental web site and look for their rules and practices for selecting the appropriate level of class. For Japanese, that is here [UC</a> Berkeley Japanese Program](<a href=“http://japanese.berkeley.edu/]UC”>http://japanese.berkeley.edu/) and it does seem that they might just have you waitlisted until the first week when the instructor can assess your fit with the class. </p>

<p>The directory is at [University</a> of California, Berkeley](<a href=“http://www.berkeley.edu/]University”>http://www.berkeley.edu/) upper right, the search box, but you click the radio button “directory” below it before firing off the search. For your class, the instructor is M Takata and a search of the directory for ‘takata’ came up with four people, two of which match - michi and maki - so you then go to the department and look through their list of people or do a google search to come up with the correct choice. The ‘staff’ entry for the department lists Maki Takata; now you have email and phone information. </p>

<p>For those who are not familiar with it, a Class Entry Code is a unique numeric code that is assigned to a single person at a time. The instructor gets a batch of CECs and hands them out to the specific students they wish enrolled. The student enters that CEC into telebears and registers for the class. The code is now used and it has no value for any other student.</p>

<p>As far as the question about taking another class to be safe, the minimum units are not enforced right away because it is common to have students on waitlist at the start of a term, instead you have until the third week to get up to minimums. That gives you plenty of time to find and enroll in a DeCal, if all else fails, therefore no reason to do anything extraordinary if you are a few units below minimum due to waitlists.</p>

<p>That is some amazing information, rider730. Thank you so much. =)</p>

<p>it is all there on the web sites and documents - you just have to learn your way around, figure out how the university tends to document this stuff, then just search. The rest is all here on CC, but it takes a LOT of digging and guessing of search terms to find it. Still, all the practical advice and ‘how it really works’ stuff has been posted here, often dozens or hundreds of times. Panning for gold is worth the time, because just like Sutters Creek in the early 1800s, there is so much gold laying around for the investment of a bit of work with a pan (browser).</p>