<p>ah thanks everyone, and congratulations to Jashper and his/her fellow classmate! Am I going to come and join you guys? I don’t know… Yale vs. MIT… HELP ME DECIDE!</p>
<p>If you are majoring in anything remotely science-related, come to MIT ^^</p>
<p>congrats!!! I’m happy for you!!! Well, I would pick MIT overr yale because MIT is so much more awesome than yale!!! 
:P</p>
<p>Should be a relatively easy decision as the two schools are very different. If you want to do science, engineering, economics, management, or even linguistics, go to MIT. If you are thinking of things like English, history, etc., go to Yale.</p>
<p>I know, but the thing is I feel like I’d be pretty interested in patent law for engineering, and obviously law in general would be better to get preparation for at Yale. If I somehow don’t like engineering and I go to MIT, I’d be kinda screwed. I can take classes at Harvard, but I don’t want to go to a college to take all my classes at another one (shouldve just not FAILED and gotten accepted to Hahvahd…). Maybe im just exaggerating the possibility for me not liking engineering since I’ve been trying to change my mindset ever since I got into Yale. also im afraid im gonna get curbstomped by people at MIT who took differential equations in sophomore year of high school.</p>
<p>Most people at MIT did not take differential equations sophomore year, people on CC notwithstanding.</p>
<p>Most people at MIT start in either accelerated calc I (18.01A/18.02A), which reviews single-variable calculus for 6 weeks before proceeding to multivariable, or else multivariable calc (18.02). Nothing super-scary there, especially because the people who did take diff eq in high school won’t be in those classes.</p>
<p>If you’re seriously interested in patent law for engineering, go to MIT. MIT’s political science department is first rate, and most applicants to law schools are political science majors, fyi. (I posted the link to the statistics in an earlier thread weeks ago and am too lazy to find it again; just Google the terms to find them if you’re interested.) </p>
<p>Maybe you really wanted to get into Harvard, also applied to MIT and Yale, and now find yourself dithering between the two institutions that accepted you. Don’t take too long deciding, because there are dozens of highly qualified, wonderful students on the waitlist still that really, really, really want to go to MIT. Take your spot, or open it up for someone else.</p>
<p>and also, there are plenty of people who do not do engineering or major in engineering at MIT. For example, I have zero engineering knowledge nor I would major in engineering, but I want to major in math and I never took differential eq in HS! Rather, I’ll start out with single variable calculus 18.014, where it’s a class that ask you to write a lot of proofs (this class is usually intended for math majors). So, if you are interested in patent law, I would def consider MIT because you need the technical background to know how the stuff works and MIT def provides better than Yale does. You can go to Yale/Harvard Law School after you graduate from MIT. </p>
<p>I think MIT provides a lot of options and majors for students interested in whatever, even for a humanities major (and you can always cross register with Harvard and other schools for few classes!!).</p>
<p>CalAlum, I just wanted to make it clear that I got off MIT’s 2nd waitlist. Even if nobody from the 2nd waitlist accepts offers of admission (around 10 kids got accepted), MIT will not accept any more applicants. They either accepted or rejected every single waitlisted applicant last tuesday, so I’m definitely not taking up anyone’s spot right now. lol also, that harvard thing was a joke, they don’t even have any engineering majors (besides engineering sciences) for undergraduates, that is FAIL. it’s just cuz its harvard. anyway thanks all for the input, im going to visit MIT tomorrow to see how it is and make a decision over the weekend, i have til next tuesday. still havent gotten my financial aid letter :(</p>
<p>oh and wildchartermage, you’re right, i looked into basic background of patent lawyers and they usually get a BSE first then go off to law school, so BSE in mechanical engineering @ MIT is about the best i could ever ask for. if i like my visit and money works out, maybe i should just go… lol truth is though, whichever one i pick im gonna cry about the other one all summer until the semester starts and i realize i couldn’t have actually made a bad decision.</p>
<p>I work with patent attorneys and litigators from a number of top law firms. Almost all have undergraduate engineering degrees and the others invariably have degrees in the physical sciences. Many obtained graduate degrees in technical fields and/or experience working at the patent office. Only then did they go to law school. It is not necessary in any way to have a degree in the social sciences or humanities to enter the patent bar. In fact, such a degree would need to be supplemented with technical education to meet the minimum requirements.</p>
<p>Yale has invested a lot of money into engineering and recently upgraded it to equal status with the university’s other schools. It could be an exciting opportunity to get in on the ground floor of a rapidly improving program. However, my daughter turned down Yale for MIT as she just felt more comfortable with the across-the-board strength of MIT’s technical programs and the strong technical orientation of the student body. It also didn’t hurt that CPW “owned” Bulldog Days :-)</p>
<p>My daughter also turned down Yale for MIT. She wandered around during Bulldog days looking for math and science-related activities. “Where’s the math?” was a constant refrain.</p>
<p>In some ways, the fight songs of the two schools illustrate the contrast:</p>
<p>YALE:
Bulldog, bulldog, bow-wow-wow, Eli Yale!
Bulldog, bulldog, bow-wow-wow, our team will never fail!
When the sons of Eli break through the line,
That is the sign we hail.
Bulldog, bulldog, bow-wow-wow, Eli Yale!</p>
<p>MIT:
I’m a beaver, you’re a beaver, we are beavers all!
When we get together, we do the beaver call:
Cosine Secant Tangent Sine!
3.14159!*
Integral Radical u/dv!
Slapstick Sliderule MIT!</p>
<p>*(say “point” when sounding it out)</p>
<p>Which song would *you *rather sing?</p>
<p>I think you missed a few lines. I always thought it was:</p>
<p>I’m a beaver, you’re a beaver, we are beavers all!
When we get together, we do the beaver call:
e to the u du/dx
e to the x dx
cosine secant tangent sine
etc.</p>
<p>^^ And there you have it. MIT students have this song down pat.
:-)</p>
<p>Nvm 10charrrrrr</p>
<p>Good grief, why would you want to be a patent lawyer? And, why waste an MIT degree on this if it is your particular perversion to represent clients before the patent office? Patent agents can do this without a law degree. </p>
<p>The MIT/patent lawyer career plan is sort of like planning on going to Harvard medical school so you can be a better personal injury lawyer. It’s a waste. Additionally, Patent law per se is a legal backwater, a small notch above admiralty [or what’s left of it]. For big time infringement cases in federal court clients are going to want someone who is a great trial lawyer, not a great patent lawyer. an MIT undergrad degree is not going to very relevant. A good trial lawyer, during his career, learns what he needs to know for each case he litigates, no two of which are the same. </p>
<p>imho</p>
<p>ah i see, i talked to my dad and other people and they too kinda frowned upon patentl aw, and it was only a possibility anyway, goin to major mechE for now and go for masters/phd in mechE as well. I have approximately 2 hours to make my decision for MIT… I’m about to say no… i feel so bad</p>
<p>^hey Yale and MIT? Its an easy decision…but yet really hard to make…if you get what I mean.</p>
<p>yeah i get you, a lot of people say science, go to MIT, humanities, go to Yale, but as you might know it’s really not as simple as that…
anyway i think im gonna go to yale… only like 1 hour left now… X_X;;</p>
<p>Well you got to do what ya got to do, and it seems you got a gut feelin about the matter. So I’d say just roll with, no locking back. </p>
<p>Life has many routes to the gates of success.</p>
<p>ok i clicked the button (an hour late) saying im not going. hopefully i get over it in like 2 days since i have prom and grad soon. 
i hope yale’s gonna be lots of fun</p>