<p>Some fascinating information about FSU, UF and UM graduates who are medical school hopefuls.</p>
<p>Percentage of students who (in 2005) successfully were admitted to a US allopathic medical school:</p>
<p>FSU - 6.62% accepted</p>
<p>UF - 6.25% accepted</p>
<p>UM - 4.96% accepted</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/start.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/start.htm</a></p>
<p>ufl </p>
<p>miami</p>
<p>which of those have the best med school?
thank you</p>
<p>It's not the med school that's the subject here. The UFL or Miami med schools are fine. </p>
<p>It's those graduating from the 4-year undergrad school. Guess it's all those classes on tape.</p>
<p>Any serious med student will want to maximize their chances since the road they travel is so difficult and 0.37% is significant to those working that hard.</p>
<p>So FSU undergraduates have a high acceptance rate into med schools? or just the FSU med school? Who has a better undergrad.. UF or FSU??</p>
<p>FSU students have a <em>slightly</em> better chance to get into Med school in general, based on the current 2005 data.</p>
<p>I would say the med-seeking undergrads from either school are about the same, based in part on this information.</p>
<p>This reflects more on the work the individual has done than the school. In other words, a highly motivated graduate seeking med school from either FSU or UF are viewed as nearly equally acceptable to the allopathic med admissions people.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with the FSU med school, except in the context that's it's one of all the allopathic med schools and thus contributes to the data.</p>
<p>What exactly is an allopathic med school?</p>
<p>This may help:</p>
<p>ok thanks, that did help. Is it fairly easy to keep A's at FSU rather than UF of UT at Austin? is class size overwhelming??</p>
<p>Any FSU undergrad programs leading to med school are not 'easy' compared to UF or anywhere else. Anyone telling you that is flat wrong and the med stats above bear this out. The only reason FSU's med school may be slightly less competitive than UF's at this point is that it's the newest med school in the US and is only now building a reputation.</p>
<p>Frankly, any undergrad major leading to a good chance of getting into med school is going to be a lot of work and tough. The competition is fierce and the weed-out classes are a bear (e.g. Chemistry, Calculus, Physics(more calculus), Biology). Then you have the MCAT exam and the whole application and interview process assuming you successfully get that far.</p>
<p>Is this fair? No. But then again, who'd want a doctor who made a "C" in organic chemistry?</p>
<p>is the class size huge? how is the town?</p>
<p>Undergrad class size? Depends on the subject - maybe 200 in some basic science classes like bio or chem lecture. </p>
<p>Labs and Recitation - about 20 to 25.</p>
<p>Much smaller in honors classes.</p>
<p>Tallahassee is a mid-size Southern town; beautiful and classic in some areas, like the canopy roads, low-income in others. The capital of Florida, lots of state government and associated businesses. Florida A & M University is not too far away. Lots of highly educated citizens who work in support of these concerns. Real 1970s style hippies still seem to live in/around town.</p>
<p>FSU has a beautiful campus in many areas, very 'university gothic' older buildings, kind of urban looking in others. Especially pretty in springtime. Nice hills. Big-time football and other sports activities. Lots of school spirit. Seems like they are always building new buildings or re-working older ones, always a work-in-process. Constant expansion.</p>
<p>thank you for all of your replies by the way.. i also see that they have an inline hockey team which is a big thing for me too! i plan on visiting the college this summer and checking it out. so you do think getting into FSU's med school may be easier these next few years due to its newness?</p>
<p>Based on what I see it will grow more difficult every year. The more the school is known, the more competitive it will become. I suspect the 'easy' (if you can call it that) period ended with the first or second class.</p>
<p>...those statistics can easily be misleading, it says nothing about the percentage of people who APPLIED that were accepted, but the overall college population that was accepted. Maybe FSU had twice as many people apply, giving them a much worse acceptance percent (I doubt it was actually double, I'm just saying)</p>
<p>The raw data is available at the reference listed.</p>
<p>Just re-read your post, Dan. The figures I show are in fact the percentage of students who were admitted into med school. 'Matriculate' means, in this context, that they were accepted into an allopathic medical school.</p>
<p>For example, a 5% matriculation rate would mean that 5 out of 100 who applied successfully made it into med school or, on the other side, 95% were not admitted. </p>
<p>These figues apply to all allopathic med schools in the US, not just the FSU med school, as graduates from UF or FSU or Harvard go wherever they can be admitted, generally. A few might get more than one offer of admission.</p>
<p>Med school is tough to get into.</p>
<p>ahh, in that case I simply misread your first post, admittedly I have not looked at the link, although in that case those numbers seem extremely low, I knew med school was competitive but THAT competitive?</p>
<p>Actually, it's even more competitive than you may realize. Take FSU or UF freshman students, for example. These kids, like yourself, are pretty much the cream of the crop of most high schools in Florida. You're probably used to being one of the top kids in your school, academically.</p>
<p>You're (the generic you) about to enter a school (and Florida State is the same way, I can tell you that as an FSU graduate) where all of a sudden you're now pretty much 'average'. Everyone is suddenly bright and motivated and competitive. You're no longer at the top of the class, you're now in the middle of the pack, and your whole perspective is about to change. Where you made an 'A' without too much effort in high school before, will now get you a D or a C maybe. But you adapt over time and graduate with a 3.0 GPA or a B average. You worked very hard for that 3.0, by the way. The effort required to get that 3.0 GPA compared to high school is now greater by a factor of ten or more. (no joke)</p>
<p>Now imagine this scenario, above, is just for the regular majors, not the hard ones like chemistry, math, physics and so on - the ones you must excel at to be competitive for medical school. This is why maybe 40% of incoming freshman decide medicine is for them when they enter the university, and soon discover Marketing or History is looking pretty good after all, once they get a taste of university-level chemistry or a 'take no prisoners' math department.</p>
<p>When a professor says something like: 'we're now going to go into a bit more depth and integration' reach for something solid to grab and hold on. The real work is about to start.</p>
<p>Does this begin to give you an idea about the amount of work required to be a medical doctor? Now - let's get to where the stats I cited come into play. Here we've got those smart, motivated kids who stuck it out and actually made it through Organic chemistry and Physics with decent grades. They are now competing with one another and the top maybe 10% of these kids actually have a shot at getting into an allopathic med school. </p>
<p>The rest may go back to grad school or go into another related career or do something else.</p>
<p>Yep. It's really tough.</p>
<p>One last thing to chew on. The average IQ of medical doctor specialists is around 125 as adults. Having an IQ of 170 does not mean you will make it through; being naturally smart is now not enough to succeed. You now must combine that talent with a gritty determination to get to your goal. It is very tough to do.</p>
<p>I looked at that link...where did you find that data?</p>