Want to know what happens if you lie on your application?

<p>check out this story. guy got accepted as a transfer to yale after BLATANTLY lying on his application (i.e. changing his GPA to a 3.91 from a 2.077). he was arrested and charged with multiple crimes, and now owes tens of thousands to yale.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=11320%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=11320&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>well, there's a difference between fudging EC hours etc and forging letters of rec and a transcript, but...</p>

<p>it all has bad idea written all over it</p>

<p>I wonder how he got caught two years later. Seems like if they were going to check up on that sort of thing it would be done right away.</p>

<p>How in the world do you change your GPA?</p>

<p>Isn't that sort of thing on the actual academic transcript?</p>

<p>More importantly, if your going to endure what I'm assuming is the tedious art involved in forging an academic document, just splurge and give yourself the 4.0 for god sakes</p>

<p>He forged or tampered with the transcript</p>

<p>How do you forge a transcript? Mine had an embossed stamp on in, as well as signitures in ink, as well as the seal of the University on it...I don't know how he aquired all these things.</p>

<p>Yes, I don't understand how the discovery was made so much later...</p>

<p>i assume he gave himself a 3.91 so they wouldnt suspect anything, thinking that they would probably expect a cheater to give himself a 4.0.</p>

<p>hmm, he got in with a 3.91?? i could have a 3.91 by the time i apply, and i already have some good letters of rec, no lies, no forged letters... does that mean i can get in too?</p>

<p>never thought about yale as a transfer option! haha, guess it could be kinda neat</p>

<p>Well he forged both letters, too.</p>

<p>Try as you might you're never going to have recs as good as if you write them yourself :p</p>

<p>I'm sure the terms "best in career" appeared numerous times alongside many other gushing adjectives. All his recs and his essays probably tied together seamlessly and emphasized his no doubt stellar reason for "needing" to transfer to Yale.</p>

<p>Nelson Muntz says..... "Ha. Ha."</p>

<p>I say after all the effort he went through to forge his application, GPA etc (and he had almost finished the course at Yale for God's sake, shows he was a bright capable student), I think he deserved getting into Yale.
"After the trial, Grammer returned to his home in Brentwood, CA."
That's depressing. Poor guy.</p>

<p>Its a good admissions essay to write. "How I forged my way into Yale".</p>

<p>CC2UC, I had the same exact thought. I've got a 3.92, I had no idea that Yale was an option, wow the things you learn through other peoples mistakes. :)</p>

<p>My guess is that he was coming due for a degree, and the school went back to the transcripts in question and discovered something was just a bit off... Either that or the guy decided to brag to a buddy at the school one night about he got into Yale, and then that made it back to admissions... Honestly it does somewhat sound like a confession somebody would do after consuming a large quanty of alcohol!</p>

<p>The sad thing is this is something thats probally going to ruin his life...</p>

<p>This type of thing might be excusable if he were 18 or something, but this guys in his 20's...that type of things sticks with you</p>

<p>well its not like his life wasnt f-d up already. he had convictions for other crimes before this stunt too.</p>

<p>"well its not like his life wasnt f-d up already. he had convictions for other crimes before this stunt too."</p>

<p>Oh yeah, those vicious crimes like petty theft! Or who could forget the hainus act of passing bad checks? Eventually, this hardened criminal's thirst for blood led him into the darkest depths of human depravity when in 1998 he took part in a crime so hideous, that the mere thoaght of it sends shivers up the proverbial spine of every decent American: Forgery.</p>

<p>What kind of lowlife could partake in such acts? Surely this pattern of behavior extends beyond just the criminal. What we're seeing here is a man who embraces barbarity to the point where it could almost be classifed as a fetish.</p>

<p>We have to face the facts folks. The only explaination for this man's twisted past is some sort of genetic lineage to Hitler. Thats the only reasonable conclusion we can come to. I mean just look at how "f-d up" this mans life was. What a sorry excuse for a human being, truly one of the more physchotic cases we are ever likely to come in contact with.</p>

<p>Forget expulsion, this mans criminal record is enough to warrant a public stoning.</p>

<p>^One of the funniest posts I've read in a while!</p>

<p>No, illmatic ruined it with heinous spelling and the misuse of the word proverbial.</p>

<p>what exactly is your point? he HAS committed multiple crimes, and HAD a criminal record prior to this most recent conviction. its not like he was this poor guy trying to get ahead in the world, volunteering at the homeless shelter and helping old ladies cross the street. do you expect anyone to feel bad for him? you yourself said its not excusable for someone in his twenties! i dont think hes a heinous murderer or anything, but he deserved the punishment he got. and as far as the punishment goes - hes lucky hes not doing hard time. he faced a much more serious punishment if he hadnt pleaded out to a lesser sentence. the fact is that he was travelling down the road of crime already, this is just his most recent step on it.</p>

<p>"This type of thing might be excusable if he were 18 or something, but this guys in his 20's...that type of things sticks with you"</p>

<p>well, if you read the article carefully (and do a bit more research), then i think you'll find he actually committed the crime when he was around 18 or so. he is 28 now, but he was -expelled- in 1995. he was also expelled almost two years after he actually forged his transcript. so he would have been around 17 when he actually committed the act of forging his transcript.</p>

<p>(not that i am saying he is thus blameless etc etc, but just to clear up / clarify this point that i noticed.)</p>