Wanting to change my major...

<p>Hello, im currently a biological sciences major and trying to become a doctor. Well my grades are at a 3.1-3.2 and I see the window closing on me to get into medical school. Currently I am in my spring semester of my third year, however having to take my course classes at the same time as lower division course pushed me to be considering only entering my junior year this upcoming Fall of 09 (so basically id be a 5th year when i graduate which is why im considering myself only a 3rd year in fall). Anyways, as stated before I see the window closing, having some of my friends having 3.7-3.9 and hurting themselves on the very difficult MCAT's and being rejected from medical schools
long story short, i dont want to be some bio geek studying plants, i would HATE that haha..</p>

<p>Im thinking about changing majors and going into Finance and get my bachelors in business. I currently attend Cal State Fullerton and we have a very well ranked business school, we just paid millions for a state of the art business building. How difficult will it be to make the conversion, since ive started college ive been fascinated with trading & stocks..If possible I could possibly want to become a stockbroker, but what are the chances of having good grades and finding a job right out of college that can place be at a 60-70k analyst job for a firm, and then going to become a stockbroker
all my GE's are done I need 20 units for core classes with finance and 24 for upper, and 12 for my department, easily done over summer and 2 years...which would still lead me into a 5th year graduation...need some advice as im looking to make the change soon so I could take summer classes</p>

<p>are there good options on getting into an internship to figure out if im up for the game, I follow trading every day i literally watch the markets from 7am-1pm lol and glue my eyes to cnbc and bloomberg. I obviously am not expert but thats what going for a degree will try and turn me into, an expert...</p>

<p>since the economy is horrible im hoping it will be somewhat better by when I graduate, all these layoffs in the past year have scared me though, should i be afraid??</p>

<p>thanks for everyone's advice I seriously appreciate it!</p>

<p>You can always go to the caribbean for med school. Your window hasn’t closed yet.</p>

<p>Take a look in your career services offices to find out if your college places any grads into the type of job you want. $60-$70K sounds like an incredibly high salary from a CSU.</p>

<p>Also, if you’re finishing your third year with a 3.2, how high could your GPA be when you graduate? A 3.5, for a lot of jobs in business, is not considered high.</p>

<p>In 2006 avg salaries for finance from there was 50k</p>

<p><a href=“http://campusapps2.fullerton.edu/career/pdf/WHTGSurvey2006.pdf[/url]”>http://campusapps2.fullerton.edu/career/pdf/WHTGSurvey2006.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>don’t change your major from biology to business just because you didn’t do well. unless your interests have changed or you feel that you are better suited for business world than medicine, choose business. don’t make such a quick and drastic move just because you didn’t do well. a 3.1-3.2 isn’t that bad and if you don’t get in the first time, you can always reapply and find out what part of your application is weak.</p>

<p>this is what my advisors gave me and said its along the lines of CSUF graduates that excel…</p>

<p>[Careers</a> in Investment Banking > Salaries](<a href=“http://www.careers-in-finance.com/ibsal.htm]Careers”>http://www.careers-in-finance.com/ibsal.htm)</p>

<p>he said switching with my minor in biology will help…</p>

<p>and the Caribbean thing, California doesnt accept med students from there, as in they dont give licenses…its rare that they do. I know because one of my professors wife’s did that and she came here, its been 7 years and no luck and its happened to many many</p>

<p>im just honestly not into medicine…ive wanted to switch majors for more than a year now to business and i just really like investments and stock markets</p>

<p>and i see the career they can have and opportunity…as well as a good salary after a few years depending on their work ethics…which i work pretty damn well</p>

<p>and yes trust me a 3.1-3.2 is no good unless u go to midwest and even hard to go there…and then again even hard to come back to california without doing more work, id be about 28-30 before i got paid much…</p>

<p>also i will be graduating in 2+ years, hopefully in a better economic evironment…</p>

<p>“… but what are the chances of having good grades and finding a job right out of college that can place be at a 60-70k analyst job for a firm”.</p>

<p>I couldn’t stop to bringup up my favorate link again :slight_smile: - CalPoly SLO’s graduate survey. If CSUF mirrors CalPoly, using that data, you have about 9% of chance, are you able to beat your peer to be at least in top 10% of your class?</p>

<p>Choose “2007-2008, Financial Managemnet, Undergrad”</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.careers.calpoly.edu/search_2007.php[/url]”>https://www.careers.calpoly.edu/search_2007.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Edit -
But if using prior two years data, the chance are less than 5%</p>

<p>well i mean thats just about the percent of money i was saying…about 55-60k i mean maybe less than what i said originally but in 2 years i dont see why not</p>

<p>not to mention that showed 134 students and we usually graduate more than 600-700 students that can give all sorts of numbers…some dont find jobs some do.</p>

<p>Well, I’m glad you realize “some don’t find jobs some do”, then you also said you dont see why you couldn’t make 60k in 2 years. Anything is possible.</p>

<p>Of course, the sky’s the limit. I could easily stay where I am and make 100-200 being a family practitioner in medicine but I have changed what I wanted to do and don’t see that as my best interest. If this finance thing doesn’t work out I will still be minoring and can switch back and finish my uppers and be done.</p>

<p>However the graduates I do know from 05-06 at csuf walked into big firms and after a few years are going back to school for their masters…sponsored by the firms making 130k and going higher + bonuses that can be a lot as associates in new york. Ya its a big step and could be a “dream” thing but I’m not a pessimist and I strongly believe the fact that I understand economics and what’s involved in finance pretty well, I could make good use of it in the longrun</p>

<p>Continuing to be a doctor could take 10 more years, literally…can be difficult without $ for that long, it wouldn’t hurt to try either/or and minor and major in one or the other, even double major if I have to and go far with it. But those salaries I get from different advisors and especially in the next 2 years, I can see the economic situation getting much better and the need for jobs to start again…it has to one day!</p>

<p>By no means, I’m discouraging your intention of switching to finance majors. I merely lay out the data, so you can see where you might be at for a finance major for a similar CSU campus and what will take from you to be at the target you set for yourself. I’m actually support your switch if you’re really interested in finance rather than bio, but just be realistic and work hard since everyone want those high pay jobs. Good luck!</p>

<p>Thank you very much and I do appreciate that :)</p>

<p>I think in anything anyone does u have to try to be the best at it, or it can be a lost cause. I actually have been in contact with a merrill lynch center that gives a 10 week program over summer if you have a 3.2gpa and are looking to be an analyst/associate. You get to shadow a similar person in those positions and if at the top of the class can take a 2 week trip paid for to ny, ny to see what the real deal is like, I applied so hopefully I can get a shot at it, maybe that alone will swing my vote</p>

<p>Good luck with the program, ebaydan777!</p>

<p>Are you sure the ML job is for an analyst position in investment banking or is it perhaps a wealth management ‘broker’ program? That doesn’t sound right. 3.2 is also well below the GPA most need to get an interview for an analyst position, even from Harvard. An associate would be a promotion from an analyst or a new hire with an MBA.</p>

<p>Its not a job its a class they offer and sponsor to see if you like the environment it basically goes everything one would do in real life down the road</p>

<p>To become a stockbroker however u don’t even need a degree, ya I’m sure its probably tough but you don’t need it tons of people have even gone into it passing the series 7 and continuing into the field.</p>

<p>But look it up its on merrill lynch’s career website. 3.2 with a BA progress.</p>

<p>And to that it was for an analyst position, but later to become an associate after obtaining an mba…</p>

<p>A stock broker is not an investment banker. They do not make the high salaries you mention unless they have clients and make commissions. You need to do your research and understand the difference. This is not a ML ibaking class, trust me.</p>

<p>ya i understand that its a personal finance adviser etc etc…however to get into the field of “finance” in general, i was offered by my school to take these practice courses over summer, not technically any type of internship but it seems like the same type of deal. When i was studying for medicine we had the same types of things offered all the time…</p>

<p>Just so long as you realize this is a whole different job than what your advisor was talking about. And as long as the people running the class have been honest with you and the others. Every year the are numerous complaints about regional retail brokers taking advantage of students to get their grunt work done free. These retail brokers have absolutely nothing to do with what goes on in New York, so the trip they’re offering sounds bogus. Please tell me there’s no cost for this.</p>

<p>Understand while it’s possible to break into banking from anywhere if you have the goods, investment banks do not recruit at CSU’s for ibanking jobs.</p>