<p>I wouldn't say that. Kerry won in California by a much smaller margin in '04 than Gore did in '00.</p>
<p>haha, "california is turning left", eiffel.</p>
<p>when you said that, i just thought of it turning left and slipping into the sea...funny image.</p>
<p>Hahaha, I didn't notice that; yeah, if California physically turned left, it'll be in the Pacific as an island. </p>
<p>Hey, let's not have California slip into the sea; where do you think your avocados come from? And it's lovely weather down here.</p>
<p>Has anyone else heard of the big Move On California movement that's pushing for CA secession? Despite its ridiculous nature, it is a very reasonable proposal, at least, according to my history teacher.</p>
<p>Anyway, I can't imagine McCain running in 2004, though the McCainnites (himself/Hegel/Lindsay) have been getting a lot of favorable attention. I expect Frist will be the forerunner, and I agree with babybird that there is no way that amendment is going to pushed through for arnold, who isn't really electable anyway (with the obvious exception of CA).</p>
<p>As to Giuliani switching parties, I can't imagine any Repub crossing over with the current state of affairs in wash., and I'd like to think that my party isn't desperate enough to nominate him (if he did switch) just to push the Dem agenda in name only.</p>
<p>California should totally secede, and it makes perfect sense to me. </p>
<p>Mmmmmm, avocados. Do they have those at Georgetown? I loveeeeeee tortilla soup and guacamole. That's one thing about the East Coast, they have crappy Mexican food. That's the #1 thing I'll miss about California.</p>
<p>come on, secession? it's just silly, really. to me, it's like the surly teenager who tells his parents he's running away. i guess california has caved to their little image of "love it or leave it"? as much as i wouldn't mind getting rid of michael moore and barbra, etc., secession is just...immature to even suggest.</p>
<p>manderz, I agree about the Mexican food. the only good place i've found was a tiny little place in Brooklyn...that I probably won't ever see again. :)</p>
<p>Seriously manderz1, I'm going to miss avocado if I go to the east coast. And the Mexican food here is awesome. I love it. The mom and pop operations here provide the best Mexican food. But I've also found a love for other Central American foods.</p>
<p>The Civil War settled the issue of secession and cleared up any ambiguities in the Constitution about withdrawing from the Union.</p>
<p>Is it me, or are there a LOT of Californians on CC. We were discussing how California high schools are the pioneers in colloquial language in the country. All I could think about was the CC board and "hella sketch."</p>
<p>Northern Californians are solely responsible for the introduction of "hella"...we need to make this distinction immediately! ;) No one here in San Diego says it, and if they did, they'd receive a tort "What are you, a Northerner?" </p>
<p>Favorite Southern Californian vocabulary introductions include, but are not limited to: dank, sketch, and skanky..and we wouldn't have it any other way :D</p>
<p>Ok, remember I am from NY. So, is there a big divide between northern and southern california? Is the surfur culture as prevalent as it is in the movies?</p>
<p>NoCal and SoCal is almost, but not quite as much as, Northern England and Southern England. There's a divide that can ne'er be healed thar...:)</p>
<p>The surfer culture is not prevalent in alll areas of SoCal, only in the coastal areas, and particularly the coastal areas of Orange County and San Diego County. (Please, don't call Orange County "the OC").</p>
<p>"Hella" is the product of NorCal and SoCal residents can tell the difference between a person from SF and a person from L.A.</p>
<p>There is a also a political difference between NorCal and SoCal; NorCal is definitely more progressive and liberal than SoCal; just take a look at SF. Liberalism is tempered in the South with Orange County, San Bernardino County, and San Diego County to name a few. The Hollywood Left only extends their power within the Los Angeles basin.</p>
<p>There is a friendly rivalry, but it doesn't get too bad.</p>
<p>It's funny, because, the "surf culture" these days has kind of been tainted by the wealth of Orange and SD counties..I have definitely seen more than a few hang loose, self proclaimed "surfer boys" that drive their own personal audis, bmws, mercedes, etc. </p>
<p>As far as the liberal stigma for all of California, the South differs the greatest from the North politically- south of LA, there aren't a whole lot of liberals. In fact, where I live, if you're a democrat, you'll be threatened- I had my tire slashed because I had a John Kerry sticker on it, and I know two other people that had the same thing happen, too. I been flipped off countless other times, tailgated, so on and so forth, only to find as people blew past me a solid Viva Bush! or W sticker on their car.</p>
<p>we should attack north korea</p>
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<p>Then Seoul would be a steaming, radioactive pile of rubble in minutes.</p>
<p>Those 10 million people would die very quickly.</p>
<p>Attacking North Korea wouldn't be a good idea right now at least.</p>
<p>Though South Korea would definitely be in range, I'm unsure if Pyongyang as the ability to launch nuclear warheads over the Pacific; the last time I checked (which was last year in April) they have the ability to hit Alaska, but their ICBM's are not too stable.</p>
<p>"There's a divide that can ne'er be healed thar"</p>
<p>That sounds more Scottish than English.</p>
<p>Oh yes. The Scottish National Party (SNP) kicked out their party leader last year. SNP has never been satisfied with devolution and totally wants independence. The Scottish Parliament however remains in the hands of Labour and Tory.</p>