<p>Texas A&M...5?</p>
<p>JOKE? hahahahaha</p>
<p>"For example, for die hard Engineers, schools like Georgia Tech, Harvey Mudd, Purdue and Carnegie Mellon would make most students' top 10 list. Harvard, Yale, Brown, Dartmouth, Duke and several other very popular universities would no doubt be left out."</p>
<p>I don't think so. According to <a href="http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2002/sw_nov-dec2002_page2.htm#Engineering%5B/url%5D">http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2002/sw_nov-dec2002_page2.htm#Engineering</a>, their top choices would be Yale, University of California, Stanford, Caltech and Harvard.</p>
<p>I didn't think Yale was particularly strong in the sciences and engineering...</p>
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I don't think so. According to <a href="http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2...tm#Engineering%5B/url%5D">http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2...tm#Engineering</a>, their top choices would be Yale, University of California, Stanford, Caltech and Harvard.
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<p>MIT isn't even in the top 10 for engineering...</p>
<p>and going to Harvard, Yale, USCB, BU, and <em>gasp</em>University of Arizona for engineering over MIT and Berkeley? You can't be serious.</p>
<p>I am going to decide about colleges pretty soon, and I want to know what all the hype is about Harvard. I want to get an undergraduate degree in biochemistry, go to pre-med, and then med.school. I realize that this will take many years, and I want to be happy wherever I get my degree. It is has always been a life-long dream of mine to be a neurosurgeon. College is an enormous step for me, and I want to make the right decision. If Harvard isn't what it's cracked up to be, please name some colleges(medically known) that are.</p>
<p>Then why is Yale so well known? All you ever hear is Yale and Harvard. I do admit that Harvard is known as the numb. 1 med. school, and for an undergrad. degree they want you to be well rounded and take philosophy instead of science. What's up with that. Philosophy will not help me determine whether a patient has a deathly illness or not. Science will. Science/math is the base of medcine, not language. Granted, language is a universal tool. I know enlish, french, spanish, and how to philosophize on all three. This has helped me in life. Philosophy is in a total different catagory than medicine. I believe that before going to pre-med, you need all the science and math you can get. Tell me your opinion.</p>
<p>Well ireland its true that Harvard is the most well known but there are many other universities that have great reputations. You mention wanting to be happy where you go so I would suggest Stanford (ranked #1 for happiest students). Its very well known, great education and everyone is really very friendly. I most warn though you have to reapply after your bachelor to med school, you aren't guaranteed admission.</p>
<p>"I don't think so. According to <a href="http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2...tm#Engineering%5B/url%5D">http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2...tm#Engineering</a>, their top choices would be Yale, University of California, Stanford, Caltech and Harvard." </p>
<p>You overlooked something. This ranking is for UNIVERSITIES and not COLLEGES. The difference is that one offers a graduate program while the other does not. HMC isn't even in the running for this ranking as they are not a UNIVERSITY. Are you meaning to tell me that Yale and Harvard have better engineering programs than HMC? No way, Jose.</p>
<p>Actually, rocketDA, these rankings are based strictly on federal research and citation impact, not on whether a school is considered a "university" or "college." In other words, they are rankings of the quality of departments. If a small college had the most prolific department in a certain area of research, it would appear on the list.</p>
<p>If you have a problem with the rankings, you're prejudiced by something you've heard in the past. These are the most up to date ones, and reflect the fact that many departments have changed and/or grown over the past 5-10 years.</p>
<p>Overall, the best universities in the sciences (across all fields), according to the rankings, are Harvard, Stanford, UC-San Diego, Yale and MIT.</p>
<p>Yes. I still have a problem...because HMC and those alike are not RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS, which are EXACTLY what grad programs are.</p>
<p>what happens if a school produces little research?</p>
<p>The East Coast is collectively rolling over in their grave. Do they even acknowledge an educational system in the West?</p>
<p>ireland 2u2 you don't have to go to Harvard to be a neurosurgeon. Maybe it's time to expand your reasearch.</p>
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<p>Where'd you hear that? Don't all the pre-meds take most of the pre-med curriculum as well?</p>
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<p>Neither will most math, and much of science.</p>
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<p>Philosophy is only about language? </p>
<p>The relationship between what is now called "science" and what is now called "philosophy" is interesting. It was only 200 years ago that courses which taught "natural philosophy" began to teach what was called "natural sciences," and they talked about the same things. For centuries, science and philosophy were essentially synonymous with what is called science today being a branch of philosophy.</p>
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<p>What does it mean to philosophize on English, French, or Spanish?</p>
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<p>Sure, why not.</p>
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<p>You say going to pre-med. Do you mean while being a pre-med and before going to medical school? If that's so, as far as I've heard, most math isn't going to help you (although you do have to take and know some calculus and have some quantitative skills), and a lot of advanced stuff in physics won't either. A lot of knowledge of general biology, chemistry, and some physics sure helps, especially for the MCAT, and learning anatomy sure would, but don't medical schools teach most of what they want you to know? While learning certain things ahead of time might be beneficial, it's not necessary, and philosophy gives one certain skills such as logical thinking and clear communication.</p>
<p>as a Virginia resident, it is somewhat gratifying to see that WM and UVA are getting the recognition they deserve as being better than Harvard. Look out, SCSU</p>
<p>These rankings aren't that bad on the comedy front, but God help anyone who actually tries to choose a college based on them.</p>
<p>UCLA=Greatest School Ever
HYPS=Suck IT</p>
<p>This list's only purpose is to serve as satire against college rankings.</p>
<p>There's no doubt that MIT is #1 in US!!!</p>
<p>It seems any idiot can make a ranking now. Us News is definitely the best out there.</p>
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Ask not what your college is doing for you, but what your college is doing for the country.</p>
<p>That's the premise of a college-rankings list devised by the political magazine Washington Monthly. Instead of considering a college's academic performance, the magazine attempts to evaluate factors such as community service, social mobility and research spending.</p>
<p>By the Washington, D.C.-based magazine's measure, the University of Washington is doing well: It ranked 14th on last year's inaugural list and 15th on the newly released 2006 list.</p>
<p>The magazine makes no secret it's taking a prod to the most widely recognized college rankings: "America's Best Colleges" released annually by U.S. News & World Report since 1983.</p>
<p>Students, parents and college administrators have an ongoing love-hate relationship with the U.S. News rankings. Administrators routinely grouse about the methodology, while doing everything possible to maintain or improve their position on the list.....</p>
<p>Included in the magazine's methodology is an evaluation of: the percentage of students enrolled in the Army and Navy reserves and percentage of alumni in the Peace Corps; the percentage of spending on research, especially in science and technology; and Pell Grants compared with expected graduation rates.
Tops on Washington Monthly's list for two years in a row is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.</p>
<p>In a news release on MIT's Web site, Sally Susnowitz, assistant dean and director of the MIT Public Service Center, called the Washington Monthly ranking "phenomenal."</p>
<p>"The first ranking helped MIT to gain recognition for its institutional priorities; this year publicly celebrates MIT's consistent commitment to inclusiveness, practical research, social mobility and public service," Susnowitz said.</p>
<p>The magazine is tough on some colleges that U.S. News ranks highly — for instance, Princeton University, which shares the first-place spot with Harvard University on the U.S. News list, places 43rd in the Washington Monthly rankings.</p>
<p>There are myriad other college lists to pick from, some serious, some not.</p>
<p>Newsweek International this week ranked the UW 22nd on a list of top "global universities," which measured research success as well as the percentage of international students and faculty. Newsweek/Kaplan also puts out a less-serious list of "America's 25 Hot Schools" with categories such as "Hottest for rejecting you" (won by Harvard in 2005).</p>
<p>And, each year, students eagerly scour the best "party schools" as ranked by The Princeton Review.
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<p>I find these rankings interesting, especially in response to the overvalued US News and World Report. The placement of various LACs, for example, differed considerably from typical listings. All rankings, however, are inevitably flawed, which makes a breadth of viewpoints beneficial to all parties concerned. That said, it would be a stretch to call Washington Monthly a "satirical" response to college rankings, since the authors likely spent much time and energy putting this list together.</p>