Washington Monthly's 2011 College Rankings Are Out

College Search & Selection
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<p>Apparently an attempt to measure and rank schools by what they are putting out rather than by who is going in.</p>

<p>National</a> University Rankings 2011 | Washington Monthly</p>

<p>Excerpt:</p>

<p>"Below are the Washington Monthly's 2011 national universities rankings. We rate schools based on their contribution to the public good in three broad categories: Social Mobility (recruiting and graduating low-income students), Research (producing cutting-edge scholarship and PhDs), and Service (encouraging students to give something back to their country)."</p>

<p>National Universities
1. UCSD
2. UCLA
3. UC Berkeley
4. Stanford
5. UC Riverside
6. Harvard
7. Case Western
8. UC Davis
9. Jackson State
10. Michigan
11. MIT
12. UNC - Chapel Hill
13. UCSB
14. Syracuse
15. Texas A&M</p>

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<p>Gawd, scared me when I thought Atlantic Monthly was getting into this.</p>

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<p>California bias anyone?</p>

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<p>The Atlantic isn’t doing the rankings, but they are promoting Washington Monthly’s rankings as the right kind of ranking:</p>

<p>[Very</a> Much Worth Reading: Washington Monthly’s ‘Real’ College Rankings - James Fallows - National - The Atlantic](<a href=“Very Much Worth Reading: Washington Monthly's 'Real' College Rankings - The Atlantic”>Very Much Worth Reading: Washington Monthly's 'Real' College Rankings - The Atlantic)</p>

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<p>It’s a design bias: the mag focuses on colleges that recruit low income students, and each UC campus is ~33% Pell Grantees.</p>

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<p>I don’t know these rankings just feel kinda hokey to me, Indiana State ahead of Indiana…tons of UCs in the top 50 (despite the fact the California gov. has no money). They claim not to judge schools by who is going in, but then they check the % of people with pell grants. </p>

<p>Its odd…</p>

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<p>I wouldn’t say it’s the best ranking, but definitely just as useful as the USNews’ one. </p>

<p>Congrats to UC Berkeley, Stanford, Harvard, Michigan and MIT for making it in the top 15! These are truly world-class universities that do not only attract the best students and faculty, but also for offering great and boundless services to the society for the improvement of the human race world-wide.</p>

<p>Let me emphasize that I often mention the word, “world-wide” whenever I mention schools such as Harvard, Stanford, Berkeley, Michigan or MIT because these are world-class universities which are quite famous world-wide.</p>

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<p>I don’t know that it’s deliberate bias so much as valuing and ranking different things. Why should a magazine based on the other side of the country have any particular California bias? I’ve always said that if you choose the factors and methodology just right, every college in American can be in the top ten in some ranking or another.</p>

<p>Look at the factors Washington Monthly is measuring. The UCs have long put a lot of effort into two of the three - recruiting and graduating low income students and research. So it’s not surprising to see so many UC campuses in the top ten. Due to its tradiional (but currently disappearing) modest cost coupled with high academic standing, the UCs have long been a major destination for smart, low-income Californians, and some from OOS too. And the UCs have been and still are research powerhouses. Service I’m less certain about. But with strong showings in the other two categories it should come as no surprise to see the UCs heavily represented.</p>

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<p>They didn’t say that - I did. What I meant was they aren’t judging schools schools based on the SATs, NMSFs, and class ranking of the incoming freshman the way other rankings often do. But as a big factor in social mobility, they are clearly going to look at Pell grants as a measure of the degree of opportunity the schools are providing for low income students.</p>

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<p>Oh, the Mother Teresa award is out again? When it comes to methodology, it is really “To each its own” as the PR, USNews, Forbes. and a few others demonstrate. </p>

<p>There are just as many problems with this ranking as in the past years.</p>

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<p>It looks like my ocal Tennessee State University is just one rank behind Yale. I know where I want to go to school now.</p>

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<p>I hate rankings…but GO ORANGE!!!</p>

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<p>Sorting it by research looks pretty good. ;)</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>Georgia Tech</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
</ol>

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<p>Research expenditures, in millions:</p>

<p>$871 - UCLA
$842 - UCSD</p>

<p>$592 - Berkeley </p>

<p>Really?</p>

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<p>^ Med schools…</p>

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<p>UCB, do not crush RML’s views all at once. Don’t you know that Cal’s medical school is considered the most prestigious in the Philippines. So good it is impossible to get in!</p>

<p>He probably has plenty of pictures of it on his site.</p>

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<p>xiggi, I don’t think Cal has a medical school. So, what’s your problem? And, if I do have pictures of Cal or UCSF, I don’t post them on the internet. Not even on my FB account.</p>

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<p>Deep down we always knew that UC Riverside was better than Harvard. Cheers to a true and honest ranking.</p>

<p>What a joke!</p>

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<p>Jackson State better than Michigan and MIT! – JSU is probably the 4th best school in Mississippi and so this list has no credibility in my eyes</p>

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<p>Oh, my mistake. I am still confusing you with that person who posts links to this.</p>

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<p>My mistake indeed:</p>

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