Weigh in, please!

<p>Hi, all. Okay. All the results are in. No blessing from USC, which was his top choice, actually for B.A., but he's okay with it. </p>

<p>Son has a great BFA (acting) option, SMU, which he would pick over his B.A. audition option, Penn State, but has a number of other schools he applied to when he thought he wanted to double major in theater and physics (b.a. and b.s.) He currently is leaning SMU BUT we'll be having one of those great family talks about what does he want to do/where does he see himself in 10 years discussions before he makes his final choice.</p>

<p>So. I know most of you on this board really know the top BFA and BA programs, BUT if you were rating theater departments at the following schools, what do you think and why? </p>

<p>Tulane
Pitt
Arizona</p>

<p>Also, any reasons why he should reconsider Penn State over SMU? (he saw Penn State at it's worst -- cold, foul weather, canceled flights, bad karma)</p>

<p>Finally, I'd love to hear all the good things you want to say about SMU because I've never been!</p>

<p>UVAHoo87 - congrats for your DS on his acceptances. I think you, of all people, would appreciate this posting regarding SMU from last year, especially if you’ve never been there ;)</p>

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<p>I am very familiar with SMU (live nearby, alumni and H works there!). In my opinion, their BFA is very strong. I have seen several productions and D (who is in a BA MT program at another college) has worked with students and graduates and we have been impressed. The campus is relatively small, the theatre facilities are fine (nothing spectacular), and the neighborhood is great - lots of restaurants and shopping, etc. It is smack in the middle of Dallas so you have access to tons of resources, including outstanding regional and local theatre. The new Winspear Opera house and Wyly Theatre in the Arts District are “must sees.” There are many opportunities in Dallas for prefessional work and internships. And, IMO, you can’t beat Dallas weather. It’s 80 degrees today!!</p>

<p>On the negative, for me and my D, the Greeks dominate the campus. There is a strong party atmosphere (of course, what college doesn’t party). They have had several “newspaper worthy” incidents with drugs and alcohol on campus recently. It is also a strongly conservative campus and, D thought, too preppy. </p>

<p>So, that’s my 2 cents. Congrats to your S on the acceptance - they are very selective so that is something to be proud about.</p>

<p>IMHO, SMU is FABULOUS!!! S and I visited the campus twice (once to tour/meet with Theatre Dept folks and once for audition). It’s an absolutely beautiful campus, in a nice neighborhood in Dallas. Great theatre facilities, friendly students, excellent program. Very strong academics. Dallas is an outstanding theatre town with so many opportunities for participation in professional theatre!!! SMU is just the right size school
– small enough for personal attention, but large enough to have that big “rah rah” college experience (D-1 athletics). The weather is beautiful. The only negative for us was the cost of attendance. But if that doesn’t factor into your decision, I really don’t see how your son could go wrong enrolling at SMU. In fact, I would guess he would have a wonderful college experience there and get a fine education in Theatre. However, he really does need to decide where he sees himself in ten years. If he’s still interested in a double major or wants to leave that door open, then from what little I know of Penn State, it seems like their BA program might be a better fit for him. We were told at SMU that a double major IS possible there, but it seems to me to be a pretty intense BFA program. FWIW :slight_smile: Hopefully, someone with first-hand experience will chime in here.</p>

<p>I’m confused–did your son get into USC’s BA program? I’m obviously biased, but I think it’s a great program!</p>

<p>I’ve heard good things about Arizona, but I think they do cuts? I’m not sure, though, someone please correct me if I’m wrong!</p>

<p>Shoot! UVaHoo87, I’m bummed about USC news. Aw. But he’s got so many other cool options. As has been mentioned above, I visited SMU campus and was pretty wowed with beauty and weather. Plus the BFA theatre program has an excellent reputation. </p>

<p>However, I would also think carefully about the other great weather options he has. I happen to love Tulane–greatest city ever, nice school size, many excellent departments across the board. I don’t know the theatre department personally (so others should jump in) but S2 also applied and was accepted and it looked good on paper. They do have BFA and BA, so don’t know how they differ and if one if noticeably favored. </p>

<p>When a student is strongly interested in a second (and more academic) major like your S is, it can be great to start as a double major and let him see. It is possible for a student who majors in a science to become a successful professional actor, although I’ve never heard of a theatre major without that double major who can go straight to physics research. LOL. But maybe some can and do!</p>

<p>Best of luck and I’m hoping you get more and better answers than mine.</p>

<p>Wisdom. Son did not get into USC. If he had, this would have been a no-brainer. It was his top choice! </p>

<p>Fortunately, he wasn’t heartbroken, because SMU made such a great impression on him. I’m a little worried about the large number of kids that are in fraternities (so hypocritical, since I was in a sorority myself, but maybe that’s why I have reservations!) and wonder if the Meadows students are as alcohol/party focused as the rest of the campus seems to be?</p>

<p>Regarding a double major – he’s less passionate about it than he’s ever been. I think in the beginning of the year he was trying to be practical, so he applied to a number of schools as a physics major, figuring he might minor in theater and audition for shows. And so, we have all those acceptances to consider.</p>

<p>As the school year progressed, however, and he had an acting internship at a nationally known theater, he started leaning more toward acting, which is why we are now where we are now. </p>

<p>Madbean – I’ve seen your son’s acceptances and he has so many GREAT options! you should be very proud! Regarding Tulane, my other son is a freshman there. He loves it. Loves the city, loves his classes. Even likes the food at Bruff. :slight_smile: But he’s into poly sci and history and doesn’t have a clue about the theater program, so he’s no help!</p>

<p>I’ve heard the theater program at Arizona is good; I’ve just never seen anyone on these boards talk about it.</p>

<p>Anyway, it does sound like we’re leaning SMU but any info on the other schools is welcome, because we’ll be having the money/personal goals/etc. talk, as I said.</p>

<p>y’all are awesome. I’ve truly enjoyed learning about your experiences from this board. I don’t post much, but everyone has been such a big help.</p>

<p>Any thoughts on both programs for BFA Drama?</p>

<p>My daughter has visited SMU, sat in on a class, and seen a production this year. She has been very impressed with the students, faculty and facilities. UVaHoo87, she is not conservative nor, for better or worse, a sorority type of girl. This worried me about the school, but the theatre kids are like theatre kids everywhere - very outgoing and friendly. I think they do their own thing.</p>

<p>Make no mistake that SMU is extremely conservative, extremely preppy, and there are a much larger percentage of kids whose parents won’t even notice paying the full pricetag at it than at a lot of schools. I know of several families whose kids are going there and they are the kind of people who just make so much money that it’s beyond my comprehension. There is nothing whatsoever immoral or wrong about that, hell I wish we were! ~ but the end result is that the mix is definitely, noticeably, heavier on the (I hate to say it) stereotypical rich Greek kid than most other Texas schools, even UT at Austin, which has a lot of those but also has so very many other eclectic kids in the mix to even it out.</p>

<p>If you get accepted into the Meadows and can afford it I would definitely consider it because it is a very good program and you have to weigh the pros and cons of everything. And I think it’s true that to an extent, theater kids are their own animal and from campus to campus seem to nevertheless share a lot of qualities.</p>

<p>Has your son done an overnight?</p>

<p>If you are concerned that your son might have a few issues with fit I’d consider an overnight visit. It might not be any big deal to him or it might. I don’t know just how different it is for boys, but for girls, I know that certain types of scenes would render my daughter fairly miserable - and she is NOT a miserable angsty kind of kid, she fits in everywhere. But to my absolute aghast shock and disbelief, there is unkindness and cliqueishness and snobbery in the world. ha. It’s not that my daughter is anti Greek, either - she’s sort of interested in investigating one. </p>

<p>But my aunt has worked for a private dormitory in Austin at the desk for several years now and all of the girls there are very. very. wealthy. girls who have a lifestyle that, if you don’t have that kind of income also, just renders any kind of hanging out, unlikely. They go to lunch and come home with five thousand dollar Prada bags like my daughter would go to Starbucks. The dry cleaners lose a garment that costs hundreds of dollars and it’s no big deal to them. </p>

<p>My parents were close friends with a couple who had a lot of money like that - because they went to the same temple - but my stepdad had grown up with the husband, so they were still friends, and my parents are sort of genteely impoverished. (ha. He’s a lawyer, not one who makes a ton of money either, but they are educated and respectable - just not wealthy.) Well, the first wife sadly died, and he remarried a woman with even more money than he has, and they spent most weekends at their new house in Malibu now and while they are very cordial, the fact is, they do not now socialize with my parents because it just can’t work that way when you have such disparity in income. My parents cannot afford to jet set with them.</p>

<p>I’m not making any moral judgments at all here, I’m just pointing out a fact of life that people don’t tend to hang out with other people who are of drastically different socioeconomic status.</p>

<p>I’m sure there’s some poor slobs like kids from my family :lol: hanging out there at SMU and having a blast, but if your kid is sensitive to that kind of thing, I’d be sure to visit it and not blow that off as a factor in their happiness there.</p>

<p>It’s just really a fit thing, and it might not make a whit of difference to your son, in which case it would be a fantastic option for him.</p>

<p>Maybe S can find a sugar mamma and have her support his acting career :)</p>

<p>Thanks for the feedback, everyone. I’ll let you know what he decides when he sends in his deposit!</p>