Welcome New College Rep, WhartonAdvisor

<p>whartonadvisor do u rec opim101 for some1 not in wharton who just wants to learn excel? i hear it is hard and is there alot of teamwork?</p>

<p>OPIM is an extremely useful course, so if you are really interested in learning about Excel and modeling, then I would recommend it. But you might want to take it in the fall when it is a smaller course.</p>

<p>Hi whartonadvisor, and welcome to CC. I had a doubt about wharton in general. I've heard that one gets a degree in economic science if I'm not mistaken. I was just wondering, how similar is this degree to a liberal arts degree in economics. I mean, would I be able to move on to similar jobs, as for example an international consultant, as a person who studied economics? Thank you for you time</p>

<p>Wharton, **** yeah.</p>

<p>why didn't you go into ibanking or consulting like everyone else?</p>

<p>Boris, you silly kid.</p>

<p>Job opportunities will not vary much at all whether you get a BS in Economics or a BA in Economics.</p>

<p>The degrees themselves are very different though. For instance, in a liberal arts Economics program you won't take things like Finance, Accounting, Management, Marketing, Operations, etc. while those types of courses are required for a business degree.</p>

<p>I didn't go into i-banking or consulting because I didn't want to. It's that simple!</p>

<p>Part of the real beauty of a Wharton degree is that it doesn't restrict you to any field or industry. I chose to apply what I learned in an educational setting. So, for instance, instead of managing a brand like Dasani, I help manage the Wharton brand and develop marketing strategies for the Wharton undergraduate program - like our viewbook and our web materials. And instead of recruiting employees for a company, I help to recruit students to Wharton.</p>

<p>I think it's much more fun than sitting in an office with a suit and I absolutely love what I do, which I know a lot of folks in banking and consulting can't say. I wouldn't trade it for anything.</p>

<p>Oh I see. Does the BS en econ. take those courses on top of what they would've taken as BA or do they have to remove some courses typical to BA and add those?</p>

<p>Some courses from a typical BA in Econ are removed to make room for the BS courses. A BA in Econ at Penn is 32 credits while a BS in Econ (Wharton) is 37 credits.</p>

<p>What kind of people do you really look for when recruiting for Wharton? And don't say "we look for a diversity or broad range of students," because from what I've seen in accepted student profiles, everyone who gets accepted seems to be similar in their specific strengths.</p>

<p>Hahaha, I'm not a typical whartonite at all and I got accepted.</p>

<p>Is there a lot of flexibiliy in the Wharton Program in terms of course electives? How does it compare to liberal degree in econ such as those from Harvard or Princeton? Is it possible to arrange a schedule where I can get the same experience and knowledge? Also, is math a popular double major for Whartonites? Thanks for the help.</p>

<p>^Exactly...but in that case if you've arranged the schedule to obtain the same experience and knowledege as a liberal econ then is there anyway that one can obtain both degrees? (wharton and econ) and is it possible in that case to also do math? ( humanly possible, if one stays 5yrs instead of 4 etc)</p>

<p>One thing we place a lot of emphasis on is strong leadership experience - people who are real movers and shakers. We also have a stronger emphasis on Math than a traditional liberal arts program (as in we need you to have taken Calc (not just pre-calc) sometime in high school).</p>

<p>Aside from that we look for everything that all the other top schools are looking for. If you have specific questions you should speak with your Regional Director of Admissions.</p>

<p>@WhartonAdvisor</p>

<p>Do you happen to be familiar with the Huntsman program? I'm an international applicant from Germany and when I looked through the Huntsman website, I kinda noticed that most of the international students were asian, or at least thats how it seemed. Do you happen to know how many German applicants are granted admission to the Huntsman program usually?</p>

<p>Okay this is very long - I tried to answer your questions as thoroughly as I could. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to post them.</p>

<p>Wharton's program does offer a lot of flexibility. About 43% of your degree requirements are NOT in Wharton. So it's not even that you can take courses outside of Wharton, you MUST. You can fit minors into your curriculum without adding any extra courses. You can do a dual degree with another school at Penn. You can study abroad. You can still pursue all the other academic interests you have outside of business. The curriculum is as flexible as you let it be!</p>

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<p>Wharton's program is not like a liberal arts program in Economics. </p>

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<li><p>The teaching methods (and therefore the learning methods) are very different. Wharton uses a LOT of cases, also simulations, negotiations, and a lot of discussion (participation can be a significant part of your grade). Liberal arts programs are going to place more emphasis on lectures as a teaching method.</p></li>
<li><p>The learning methods in Wharton are VERY hands on. You will start with a problem - dissect it, examine the environment you are operating in, identify the key players, evaluate potential solutions. After you have tackled that problem, THEN you examine theories to back up what you have done on your own. In a liberal arts curriculum, you start with the theory or abstract ideas and spend a lot of time examining issues with those theories. Once you have mastered the theory, you then look to problems that allow you to apply it. So Wharton has sort of a backwards learning approach compared to a traditional liberal arts curriculum.</p></li>
<li><p>The classes you take are going to be very different. Wharton students take things like finance, accounting, marketing, management, operations, etc. as REQUIREMENTS. And then they have the freedom to explore disciplines like health care management, real estate, entrepreneurship, retailing, insurance, etc. Academic departments like that don't even exist in the vast majority of liberal arts schools, so you won't get exposure to the same courses that Wharton students are exposed to. </p></li>
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<p>So in that sense it can be very difficult to create a schedule at another institution that will give you the same academic experience that Wharton gives you. On the other hand, if you are at Wharton and you want to mirror a liberal arts curriculum you CAN. You can get a minor in Economics, you can get a dual degree in Economics, etc.</p>

<p>That's the benefit of being at a place like Penn that offers multiple fields of study. Here you can do it all, while at a liberal arts institution you are predominantly restricted to liberal arts unless they happen to have more than one school.</p>

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<p>Math is not a hugely popular dual degree for Wharton undergrads, but it is a popular minor. A lot of Wharton students will get a dual degree with something non-quantitative, like History or Anthropology or English or Spanish.</p>

<p>Doing a dual degree is definitely doable here (and one of the perks of being at Penn). Yes, it will be more difficult, yes there will be more courses to take, yes you might have to take 6 or 7 classes in a semester or stay for a summer. BUT, you will also graduate from Penn with two undergraduate degrees (for the price of one!).</p>

<p>Hey there,
Just a quick question: How flexible are the dual-degree programs? Specifically M&T, if I remember correctly, there is room for 6 elective classes if you go the BAS route, is this true? Also, is it possible to study abroad and still be in the M&T program?
Thanks</p>

<p>Math isn't a popular dual degree because wharton kids are typically dumb.</p>

<p>welcome Whartonadvisor!!!!</p>

<p>Could you tell me a little about admissions besides the generic, get good sats and grades? I am going to apply ED and I wanted to know anything that would be useful. Thanks.</p>