<p>jym626, adverb of the day!</p>
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<p>McDonald’s food is truly vile.</p>
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Yes, PolarBearVsShark, if Loyola had any integrity, the school would have refused the money because it was accrued in the service of this blight upon our national culinary landscape. </p>
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<p>The question at hand isn’t whether med schools consider the academic reputation of the undergrad (they do, but moderately so). The question is whether attendance at “high status” medical schools (e.g., Harvard, Johns Hopkins, WashU) confers additional economic benefit on graduates compared to “lower status” medical schools. And the point that I’m making is that, generally speaking, the answer is no, because the medical profession is not like law or business where there are “golden” grad schools that get all the cool jobs. There are a lot of reasons to want to go to an excellent undergrad. There are a lot of reasons to want to go to a top law school (e.g., T-14) or top b-school. The landscape in medical school is simply flatter. The T-14 graduate will have access to firms that the “lower law school” grad won’t have. The top b-school grad will have access to companies that the “lower b-school” grad will have a lot harder time getting access to. Medical school is different. It just is. It’s not good or bad, it’s just different, and if Pascarella et al think otherwise, they are just not dealing in reality.</p>
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"what does that mean? Does it mean that Yale’s pre-med education really is superior, or that medical schools are impressed by prestige? "</p>
<p>It could be a combination of both. If Yale grads get into an ivy medical school, it is long suspected that Ivies prefer graduates of other Ivies. If they do get into top state schools which only care for GPA and MCAT score + a few other attributes, it is primarily education.</p>
<p>Having a high GPA as a premed in most schools is pretty hard. So may be they train premeds hard at Yale?</p>
<p>Pizzagirl, I think the study annasdad is talking about in this case is about getting into medical school, not what happens after.</p>
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My wife was one, and she worked pretty hard–but that was true of all the STEM people whether they were pre-med or not. I can’t see why the pre-med education there should be better than any other category, though.</p>
<p>“Pizzagirl, I think the study annasdad is talking about in this case is about getting into medical school, not what happens after.”
If you are talking about being at Med. School, I can tell you that what happened after does not depend on UG and even on fact that first year Med. Student had PhD from Harvard or law degree or Masters in science. I cannot tell you why, but it just does not matter. They are all pushed very hard at Med. School and everybody feels that they do not have enough time to study even if they study 24/7, which is not possible.
however, getting into residency might make a difference for PhD from Harvard, I do not know yet, as he might use network that is not available to others. But how many PhD’s from Harvard do we have in Med. Schools in whole country? I do not know if there is a study for it. I know one person.</p>
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<p>Pascarella and Terenzini’s work reports research on the effects of undergraduate institutions, not graduate or professional schools.</p>
<p>"I can’t see why the pre-med education there should be better than any other category, though. "</p>
<p>Premed training matters for getting into medical school. The question is whether it matters which medical school you go to makes any difference in your future.</p>