Wesleyan vs University of Texas

My friend, I really don’t care about this and find your insistence on declaring a prime rib superior to a nice pasta dish as laughably on-brand for every Texas and Texan stereotype in the book. Nobody was making any such comparisons before you came in and vomited all over the thread. You’re irrational.

But, just because I’m in a charitable mood and seem to have bruised your fragile emotional connection to one of the most overrated and underachieving programs in Power 5, I’ll just give you this free lesson in reality: it’s possible for both things to be really great even though they are really different.

Each of my kids could have walked into UT Austin w/o breaking a sweat were they state residents of that Godforsaken wilderness of sagebrush. Fortunately for them, and for me, we live in much nicer place.

Good day. You have left me thoroughly unimpressed.

The other thing visitors “get” if they hang around after the game is that all of the players on the field are real students with at least a basic grasp of the English language. “Real programs” vary greatly on that point. Imagine showing up on an anonymous internet message board and bragging about high school stadiums that dwarf many, many Division 1 football stadiums in a state whose public school system consistently ranks in the middle of the pack nationally. Hey, maybe cut back on the stadiums and invest in the school part of … school.

I’ve actually been in this one and, believe it or not, Texas has others that are nicer and bigger:

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I went to UT and have been to Middletown multiple times. You just can’t compare. Austin is a million times better.

IMO, Connecticut in general is one of the worst states in the nation.

Terrible weather, high taxes *they tax you on the value of your car, lack of diversity, population loss. There’s a reason why people keep leaving the state - lack of great jobs and high cost of living.

Austin is considered a hub for innovation and is consistently voted one of the best places to live.

I think Middletown is… not sure. This is just my opinion.

Last I looked, something like 92% of Wesleyan students arrive on campus from out-of-state. We have no skin in this game of Texas Long-Horn penis-envy. We just don’t care.

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You sound offended. I don’t think “envy” is the correct word. I’m not “envious” of anything.

Im just giving my opinion since the OP mentioned he wasn’t a fan of Middletown. Not sure someone from Texas will like it especially when compared to Austin. Never said anything about Wesleyan itself. It’s a fine school. I know several people who work there and seem to enjoy it.

The state’s capital city was literally on the fringe of financial ruin only a few years ago and Connecticut has lost numerous high profile companies.

Im not sure how many young professionals want to stay in Connecticut and make it their permanent home. The population numbers indicate they don’t.

All the more shame that so many college applicants from the second largest state in the union have to search elsewhere for a decent LAC to attend.

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You are correct. Texas does not have many established liberal arts schools, so if they want to attend the 17th best liberal arts college in the nation, they should apply to Wesleyan.

There are schools which I think are worth that $52k/ year difference, but Wesleyan surely is not among them. UT will offer a great education and opportunities. Enjoy it.

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Your opinion is just fine, other than your sweeping claim that “people from Texas” won’t like Middletown, which is absurd. A lot of people like smaller communities, and I venture there are plenty of people from Texas who would like Central Ct. just fine. I personally cannot stand Texas and find few redeeming qualities to the place. I’d rather live almost anywhere in New England over almost anywhere in Texas. My uncle likes it, which I don’t get. At all.

The folly, however, is in trying to engage in a side by side comparison of an elephant and a giraffe while proclaiming one is objectively better. Though that seems like a very Texan thing to do. You’ve listed things about Ct. you don’t like. I could keep you here all day discussing things I find abhorrent about Texas. But I don’t think that’ll help anybody.

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I never claimed that people from Texas “wont” like it. Im sure some do. I said Im not sure if someone from Texas will like it, especially if they already expressed reservations about it.

I’m also not objectively claiming one is better. I stated it’s my opinion and it also seems to be the opinion of many others as well.

From 2010-2020 Texas was #1 in population growth and Connecticut was near the bottom. Only Illinois, W Virginia and Miss was worse.

But, it’s really not clear from the OP that the cost differential is really that vast. And, let’s get real: Wesleyan could fill an entire freshman class with full-pay students fleeing UC-Berkeley.

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“Not sure someone from Texas will like it.” Lol. Close enough.

Should kids admitted to Yale be made aware of your population growth point? Seems entirely irrelevant to me, but you keep repeating it.

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Im sure people will live in Connecticut for Yale. Wesleyan? Some will, some won’t. Isnt that the whole point of this thread?

If the OP got into Yale, would they be deciding Yale or UT?

Wesleyan? May not be worth it.

Wesleyan is not Williams. It has a unique culture, one which some love but many would not. Unless one is certain that one seeks that specific culture, it is a rather risky choice, and it appears to be significantly more expensive than the well regarded mainstream state flagship.

Wesleyan is also not Amherst, Bowdoin, Swarthmore, Pomona, Wellesley, and many others (Including Yale).

But it’s a good school.

So is UT Austin

Agreed.

UT Austin is fantastic for certain majors (Business, engineering, CS, etc). But like most big state schools, it’s not strong in most liberal arts. Not sure if Economics is still considered liberal arts at UT but I believe they have a strong Economics program. I studied Accounting at McCombs (the #1 accounting program in the country).

if the OP is eyeing a future in business, UT Austin is a great choice.

What do you mean “it is not”? I’m not sure I know what that means. Can you put some meat on the bones?

So the population argument applies to Wesleyan but not Yale? Your logic escapes me.

UT is great in many areas that fall into the “liberal arts.” I’m losing confidence in your ability to asses these two schools.

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However, by an objective criterion, it has been a good way from UT to Wesleyan in an aspect of student profile. For example, in this (somewhat older) analysis based on standardized scoring, UT, at 115 nationally, appeared well down from Wesleyan, at 40:

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