<p>I just don’t like it when wrong or misleading numbers get reported, people can decide for themselves which is “better” for them, but they should be using the most accurate data to do that.</p>
<p>BTW I see now Cornell’s 2010 SAT ranges by college are now available,
For Arts & Sciences the midranges were 650-740 Critical Reading, 670-770 Math.
For Engineering the midranges were 650-740 Critical Reading, 720-800 Math.</p>
<p>I may be mistaken but I think the other specialized colleges there have no direct analog at Bekeley. But data is available for them too, if someone wishes to apply to one of them.</p>
<p>“I seriously think that it is a great school, and if I have to rank the Ivies based on academic strength, it would surely not fall in the bottom of the Ivies, contrary to what most people here on CC believe.”</p>
<p>I’m not sure most people on CC do think that, based on academic strength. People on CC are mostly obsessed with entrance stats, and<br>
Cornell’s colleges are,for the most part, somewhat easier to get into than these others.</p>
<p>"Having said that, I think that, as good as Cornell is, it has a counterpart in the West coast, in terms of academic prestige. "</p>
<p>You are free to think that, but please use apples to apples, updated and correct numbers to make your points.</p>
<p>“College of Letters & Science
College of Chemistry
College of Engineering
College of Environmental Design
College of Natural Resources
Haas School of Business
School of Social Welfare”</p>
<p>If each has separate admissions by college, please post links to the admissions stats for each college, that would probably be most helpful to prospective applicants who can attend only one of them.</p>
<p>BTW, is “College of Chemistry” really an undergrad college there? I’ve never seen that specific a breakdown of a particular Arts & sciences major into its own separate college before. What happens if you start there and decide you want to be a Physics major instead??</p>
<p>I’ve seen a couple schools with College of Sciences generally (eg Mellon), but not as specific as Chemistry by itself.</p>
<p>Yes, Cal’s College of Chemistry is a separate undergrad entity. (Since it is highly-ranked, it is well worth the OOS price of admission, IMO.) Because it is so small, CoC is almost LAC-like in feel and personal touch, surrounded by a huge campus. CoC offers a BS.</p>
<p>If you start in CoC and wish to switch to physics, one just ‘transfers’ to Letters & Science, where the physics department is housed. (And yes, one can also major in Chemistry in the College of Letters & Science - BA, I think.)</p>
<p>CoC admissions is more rigorous than L&S (requiring a high Math 2 score, obviously), but stats are not published by individual College. Haas does not accept incoming Frosh, only Jr transfers.</p>
<p>And Cornell-CAS is definitely more selective than Cal-L&S, but they tend to screen for different applicants. CAS is seeking top students nationally while L&S reserves a bunch of spots for low income (and low testers) who are California residents.</p>
<p>^ Yes, College of Chemistry (CoC) is undergrad as well. In Berkeley’s CoC resides chemistry, chemical engineering and chemical biology majors. It is one of the smallest colleges on the Berkeley campus. </p>
<p>You can transfer out of CoC to Letters and Science easily.</p>
<p>What I infer from this – within the College of Letters and Science, which admits students into the College and not into any particular major (correct me if there are majors that separately evaluate), these % tell us how competitive the students are within each major. From this, I infer the strongest applicants were those showing Biology as their intended major (31.3%), then a tie between Physical Sciences and Computer and IS (23.3% each), on down the line to last place of Public Admin and Social Services (13.2%)</p>
<p>I wonder what major recruited athletes put on their applications? :)</p>
<p>Speaking of them, did you see that blowout by Stanford? Cal seem to be always doing less with more, unlike my Wildcats, which achieve more with less. :D</p>
<p>I believe UPenn, Columbia, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, and UChicago compete with HYPSMC although HYPSMC are a step ahead.
Berkeley is a step below UPenn, Columbia, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell, and UChicago, BUT
its a another acceptable alternative due to its low costs and excellent location.</p>
<p>^ well, that’s your personal opinion and I respect that. However, my opinion differs from you. And, I’d like you to know that my opinion is often shared by many top employers, top academicians and top students. Your opinion, is often shared by those who were rejected to Berkeley, so I understand why they gloat and rant every time they speak about Berkeley.</p>
<p>^You must be severely blind.
For your information, I’m MIT’13. I turned down Berkeley before they gave me my admit letter online.
In fact, YOU were the one rejected by Berkeley. Aren’t you the one gloating about Berkeley on every single post?</p>
<p>EDIT: You claim you have a wife who went to Cal…
no comment lol.</p>
<p>You really have to ignore RML. He is extremely insecure. I currently go to Cal and I can tell you that the undergraduate population knows that we are not on the level of any ivy. However, our grad programs are a lot better. You have to understand that most people will think that their state school is underrated, but that is likely because they got rejected by their state’s elite private. Ill admit it. I got rejected from Stanford. But, that doesn’t mean I think Cal is the best. Best state school maybe, but not the best university in the US - or even close.</p>
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