Western Schools for the 3.0-3.3 kid

<p>I wish my D had applied to Redlands. She went back and forth and in the end did not complete the supplement. I think it is a great option if you want a smaller school in Ca that does not have a religious bent.
As I said earlier her GPA was higher but I think she fits in with this group.
In at Univ of Montana (with WUE), Montana State (merit but not full WUE), Western Washington (merit but not full WUE), Sonoma State, waitlisted at Cal Poly SLO.
Surprises- Admitted to UC Davis, rejected at UC Santa Cruz
Not surprised- rejected at UC Santa Barbara</p>

<p>Bookmark. Yay students and families! </p>

<p>Proud supporter of students who don’t peak too soon!</p>

<p>mom60, your daughter has some great choices! Does she have some preferences?</p>

<p>Shrinkrap, lol about students who don’t peak too soon. My own DS is in no danger of peaking before he’s 35…</p>

<p>mom60: congrats on all the acceptances! good to see that UC Davis is admitting folks in the 3.0-3.3 range. There’s hope yet for my D in a year!</p>

<p>I’m starting to be interested in U of Redlands. I see the tuition is quite steep. Does anyone know if they have substantial financial aid?</p>

<p>It is such a bizarre process. A kid at my son’s high school did not get into Cal Poly SLO with a 4.2 and perfect 800 math SAT score. We had people rejected from UC Davis with high stats but another accepted if she agreed to play the French Horn in the band. I think we should all be happy with our outcomes and try to forget how ridiculous the whole process was. So glad to be done!</p>

<p>Just read thru much of this thread. My daughter (junior) has a GPA of around 3.1. But her SAT scores are low (1200/2400), and so are her ACT scores (18). She will be retaking both, but while I love her dearly I am not expecting a dramatic improvement - I am hoping if she studies all summer she can raise her SAT score to 1350/2400 by fall, maybe 20 on the ACT.</p>

<p>SO with a low SAT/ACT score, what are her best options ? We are in San Jose. UC is clearly out, will she have a shot at San Jose State or other CSU schools ? From the WEU schools are there any which will consider students with low SAT/ACT scores and GPA in the 3.1 range ?</p>

<p>New to this forum, looking for suggestions from parents of students with low SAT/ACT scores. Thanks !</p>

<p>vasu100-Has she/have you considered having her retake the SAT? Both my college-age kids took it twice…the second time in October of their senior year. Both their scores improved. If you’re not inclined for a SAT prep-type class, which can be pricey - (or not, depending upon who offers it), they have prep books at Barnes & Noble & such. She can work a bit on it this summer… If she knows what to expect the second time around her score might go up.</p>

<p>You didn’t mention if she wants to go out of state. WUE is treated differently at dffferent schools & states. I don’t think any of the Oregon schools offer it to CA students. Some schools base it on GPA, etc. Other’s don’t. Some of the less populous states, i.e. Montana, Wyoming and Idaho have much higer acceptance rates. But the student has to be open to snow and cold.</p>

<p>If she doesn’t have much in the way of extra-curriculars, she’s got the summer ahead of her to get involved in something…it helps every application to show the student is well-rounded.</p>

<p>The Ca State system has it’s own website with a link to each campus. Each site shows the schools statistics and also all the majors they offer. Not all majors are at all locations… I think SJS is one of the more difficult ones to get into, but I don’t know if the acceptance rate is more advantageous to local kids. I believe the kids in the county the state U serves have priority. I could be wrong.</p>

<p>Don’t know if this helps…?</p>

<p>Is a private school on you radar? My daughter had a 2.7 GPA and 1500 on the SAT and got into St Mary’s in Moraga. Beautiful school! They have a lot of money to give if you have need or can play a sport. I ended up paying 12,000 per year. Never look at sticker price!</p>

<p>Further to the CA States, there is a published index on the CA State U website that shows what GPA / SAT scores are needed. The higher the GPA, the lower the SAT. You should find it. Your HS college counselor should have it too. A 3.1, is OK as long as all the classes qualify… </p>

<p>Our college counselor was constantly bringing up community college, but my son wanted do go away to a 4-year, and we wanted him to have the opportunity if he could earn it. You will find 4-yr schools that your D will get into.</p>

<p>Of course she will retake SAT as well as ACT - but I am not expecting miracles, I will be happy with 1350/2400 SAT and 20/36 ACT on the retakes. It is not an issue of trying - and she has already done one SAT prep class AND gets plenty of help at home - it just seems like that’s what she is capable of.</p>

<p>GPA is 3.1, and she has other stuff going for he (Girl Scouts for 10 years and might go for Gold Award, has taught band at elementary school for 6+ years, in track and band and cheer at high school, tries hard academically and is not lazy at all). </p>

<p>Private school is not out of reach financially, although I tend to want to stay public (but wife/daughter will be more inclined towards private than me so I will get out-voted there eventually).</p>

<p>She wants to do a science major (something in the health science field if she can get in and be successful). She would love to be a vet eventually, but I know that is very very competitive and may be hard to get into after 4 years. </p>

<p>Getting a “great college experience” is high on the priority list. Getting a good education and having a good chance of succeeding at college as well as career are of course the absolute top priorities !</p>

<p>I realize I am posting prematurely - she will retake SAT/ACT in June, and it will be September before she has to really start thinking about where to apply. But never too early to start thinking about the best options I think !</p>

<p>vasu100, some unfavorable news regarding SJSU and locals:</p>

<p><a href=“http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/san-jose-state-u-moves-to-end-admission-guarantee-for-local-students/42278[/url]”>http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/san-jose-state-u-moves-to-end-admission-guarantee-for-local-students/42278&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I don’t think you are posting prematurely at all, and I hope I didn’t sound simplistic. </p>

<p>Some parents will disagree, but we helped our S put together a prospect list with ideas/suggestions/interenet research starting in his jr year. I found a lot of good ideas on this same thread! We took him on a few campus visits in Spring of jr year to schools he could get into and explained that his grades likely ruled out others - i.e. Santa Clara.</p>

<p>My S was very specific about where he would go geographically…which helped narrow down the list. If your D is interested in a specific school, it is not too early to go on a few tours if you haven’t already - or your could go next fall. We did it a bit early to keep him motivated and show that there were good schools out there for him. They usually allow appointments or have sessions with admissions counselors that can be very helpful and informative…</p>

<p>I did see the story that SJSU is raising the bar for local admissions. But the old bar was just GPA=2.0, and the new bar is likely to be GPA=2.4. My daughter has GPA=3.1, so she should still qualify (I hope), although not sure how they will weigh the low SAT scores. Per the CSU-Mentor site her eligibility index will be 3280 which “qualifies” I think. And if we can raise SAT scores to 1400 that might open up a few more possibilities for her.</p>

<p>I think we will need to have a serious discussion on possible majors / careers and then look for some other possibilities. I see Oregon/Arizona college visits in our summer plans, will come back here once we have done some additional soul-searching and research…</p>

<p>vasu100, SJSU admits based on eligibility index which is a formula of GPA from sophomore-junior A-G courses and SAT score, math and reading only. I would not think of SJSU as a sure thing anymore, even though that’s the mindset of most local students. They are changing their rules. I would have her apply broadly to the CSU’s, try and bring up her grades and test scores. You might want to look at privates that would give financial aid and colleges like Southern Oregon. Does she have any interest in the Cal States that are easier to get into, like East Bay, Channel Islands?</p>

<p>Just back from the last of our road trips. Daughter was accepted to Fullerton, CSUN, Cal Poly Pomona, NAU, Colorado State, San Jose & Chico. Wait listed at Long Beach, and accepted to SUNY Purchase, in New York. We visited San Jose & Chico this past weekend. Chico is gorgeous, great college town, great residential campus. One of the most frustrating things, for us, about the Cal States is the commuter atmosphere of most of the campuses. Chico is definitely the exception. It’s got that heavy party reputation, which is a bit of a concern. Daughter wants to major in Graphic Design - Chico doesn’t have a full BFA with the major, just a BA with a ‘concentration’. SUNY Purchase is a state school in NY, but is the flagship ‘arts’ school with a very good reputation and offers the full BFA in Graphic Design. It’s very small (4200 students) and does have a bit of its own commuter reputation. 2600 of the 4200 live on campus but I think a lot of kids go home on weekends. It’s definitely the better choice in terms of the degree, but not sure it’s the best choice in terms of the full experience. Daughter is tortured over this, and so am I. I can’t even come up with my own hidden agenda to try to brainwash her with. With all her choices, not one has been a definitive ‘This is it!’. Wish we could cut and paste features.</p>

<p>nyn8vmom, Did you visit NAU and Colorado State? Impressions of the schools?</p>

<p>theatremomma, we didn’t visit Colorado - they didn’t offer WUE and we couldn’t pay full price. I have twins finishing up their freshman year at NAU and they love it. Beautiful campus, great area, very helpful faculty and administration. They’re very happy with their decisions.</p>

<p>I have gotten a lot of advertising from NAU. Does everyone get the WUE? Anything negative you found? Any trouble getting classes? Dorms? I assume you need to have a car there?</p>

<p>I think WUE is automatic. Registration - on the freshman level, at least - has been tough, but my kids managed to get classes and schedules they were happy with. Takes a little jockeying around, adding and dropping while registration is still open, watching for opportunities as kids change their schedules, etc. Not impossible, but not as easy as I’d like it to be. We have heard about some kids not being able to get their GE classes when they want them, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near as bad as in the CSU system. Dorms are fine. They’re dorms. I initially thought they were tiny until I saw Cal State dorms that are even smaller. No a/c is an issue first few weeks of fall semester, and I expect it to be the same as they head into finals next month. A car is helpful but not necessary. Plenty available within walking distance and there is a shuttle to downtown, etc. All in all my kids are very happy there.</p>

<p>You need to request consideration for WUE on the application.
It isn’t automatic at all schools and may be limited by grades/test scores &/or major.
[WICHE</a> - Student Exchange Programs](<a href=“http://wue.wiche.edu/WUE_constituent1.jsp]WICHE”>http://wue.wiche.edu/WUE_constituent1.jsp)</p>