<p>Of course prestige matters, and it’s unrealistic to say that it wasn’t a factor when most of us were applying. I mean christ, I applied to six Ivies. But</p>
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<p>really hits the nail on the head. No, Penn isn’t HYP and it arguably “still has something to prove”. I think almost every Penn students would readily admit that, but it’s not as if there’s some prevailing inferiority complex on campus. Especially as far as Wharton goes, you’d be crazy to worry that it’s not prestigious enough, which goes back to what ilovebagels was saying. As far as jobs and grad school placement and all that, you can’t go wrong with Penn. or Duke. or Northwestern. The “wow” factor is a big deal when you’re applying, no doubt, but a week on campus at almost any school and you’ll be having too much fun to care.</p>
<p>tl;dr: the cliches about college that every high schooler on cc reads and ignores.</p>
<p>It really doesnt go back to what ilovebagels was saying. I am an international and just because I am asking about something doesnt mean I obsess over it. What do you think CC is for?
If tomorrow I start a thread saying that Stanford is too expensive are going to start complaining that I obsess over money? Keep your logic to yourself please.</p>
<p>Sorry, let me rephrase that. I wasn’t trying to call you narcissistic there There’s “layman prestige” and “recruiting prestige”. You will have no issue with recruiting prestige at Penn, and especially at Wharton. This prestige DOES matter because it affects your future. Penn doesn’t really have “layman prestige” though, but you’ll probably find that it doesn’t matter that much, regardless of where you end up.</p>
<p>I’ll make this very clear – if you want great “layman” AND “recruiting” prestige, Harvard will nail both. If you absolutely have some need to seek external social validation through prestige with everyone you’ll ever know/meet, then don’t go to Penn. If you want great job opportunities and connections, then you’ll be just fine at Penn/Wharton.</p>
<p>Yes, Harvard may have both “types of prestige,” but you may not enjoy Harvard or want to study there. You might click better with Penn and everything it has to offer (socially, academically, etc) that Harvard doesn’t. You may not have as much “layman” prestige, but at least you can say that you enjoyed your college experience and still landed a job just as good (or better) as whatever you could have gotten out of Harvard.</p>
<p>What we are saying is that you’ll soon find that “layman prestige” has very little impact on anything. High-schoolers assume that it matters more than it actually does, and you’ll realize this once you find that tons of kids from ALL the top schools are ending up in the exact same places.</p>
<p>Using terms like “lack of prestige somewhat bothers me” and “supersede Penn’s lesser reputation” does set a tone for an otherwise innocuous question.</p>
<p>I think you still need to fully understand the context in which my question was framed (though for the life of me I cant understand why).
Here let me simplify things for you:
Penn has less layman prestige: My opinion.
Does less layman prestige also translate into less recruitment prestige? : My question.
No it does not: legendofmax’s answer.</p>
<p>So where in this ‘grand’ scheme of things do I set a narcisstic tone? Pray do enlighten me?</p>
<p>dreamer1992- I’m going to try to answer this as question as simply as possible.</p>
<p>Going to Wharton, you have comparable to superior opportunities in business compared to HYPS. Should you want to change careers and suddenly go to engineering grad school, it is not comparable. It is a trade-off, as many people say, if you want to do business go to Wharton. You will have superior recruitment opportunities. Obviously, laymen prestige isn’t there, but when it comes to bosses, they know Wharton. </p>
<p>You were curious about M&T? I’ll answer this as honestly as I can, and if someone can find something contrary to what I’m saying, I’d love to hear it, because I don’t want to sound like I’m blowing up the classic Penn “ego”. M&T is the most elite program in the US when it comes to the intersection of business and engineering. I don’t know much about outside of the US, but I know it is one of the best in the world. Your friends will never have heard of M&T, and they’ll think you’re going to Penn State (if you’re from the South, especially). However, you will have unrivaled recruiting opportunities. LSM is similar in that it offers some of the best “biomedical” high finance positions, and superior med school admissions, but I don’t think you’re as curious about that. In general, dual-degree programs involving Wharton are on par with HYPS, but because so few students are admitted and attend, laymen don’t know about them. The guy hiring you will, because he is looking for the very best, and he does his research. </p>
<p>Now someone please correct me if I’m wrong;dreamer1992 deserves to know everything to make his decision.</p>
You don’t like it, don’t come to Penn. Simple.</p>
<p>The real question is have you been ACCEPTED to all these places?
Worry about this stuff after acceptance into all the schools in RD round. </p>
<p>Salary, recruitment? Pick the school with the highest average income after undergrad, why don’t you? Oh wait, lack of prestige bothers you? Not to mention that without the grades, you won’t be going anywhere. Harvard name won’t help if you come out with straight D’s. It’s called pick the best school by fit, not necessarily by the name.</p>
<p>It’s obvious Penn isn’t right for you. Don’t come to Penn.</p>
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Look at this ■■■■■ above. Poor dreamer lol.
Umm not that want to sound condescending or anything (especially to a Class 14 member-cant wait to meet you) but did you at all read what transpired in this entire thread?
Haha Penners love to blow their cork when someone says Penn is not an HYPSM. Lol. Cant wait to get on campus next week!</p>
<p>Check out the thread What is the most important factor in selecting a college in the forum College Search. The typical mentality of students is to first look for prestige.</p>
There’s “layman prestige” and “recruiting prestige”. You will have no issue with recruiting prestige at Penn, and especially at Wharton. This prestige DOES matter because it affects your future. Penn doesn’t really have “layman prestige” though, but you’ll probably find that it doesn’t matter that much, regardless of where you end up.</p>