<p>;soeiresr
so.
neither of them will give my family money
they're about the same cost
both are in the top 5 consistently for business (though wharton has more of a consistent trend mainly because its the more established business school)
they're both 8-9 hours from where i live.
i like job security but i want a good environment to learn in
which one is better?! any advice? let me know (:
<3 sarah</p>
<p>I cannot believe that you actually think that Business week is a reliable source. Wharton does not compete in the same field as Mendoza at all. It is miles and miles ahead. People turn down Harvard, Princeton, and Yale down for Wharton. That would never happen at Mendoza. Do your research and read up. Thank god you asked this question on CC instead of in public, you could have embarrassed yourself.</p>
<p>gosh i hope my fellow whartonites aren’t as cruel as you…</p>
<p>Do some research. Mendoza is nowhere near Wharton caliber.</p>
<p>@openupsayrah: True honesty sometimes necessitates cruelty.</p>
<p>nah, there are better ways to get the point across, i got into the same school as all of you so i’m not completely incompetent</p>
<p>Look, I’m sorry if my message came across wrong. I was not insulting your intelligence. You claim that you got into Wharton, if true, good for you. If you did, you should know that Mendoza is nowhere near Wharton. If you were actually accepted, you must possess some modicum of intelligence. The one thing businessmen hate is being asked stupid questions. I learned that the hard way. You could easily have done a quick search to find the answers to your questions. </p>
<p>This is how your question came across: is Stony Brook on par with Harvard college academically and reputation wise? I am having such a hard time deciding between these two colleges. They will cost me the same amount of money, and both are equivalently convenient. I mean, both are the top 5 colleges in the world according to Playboy magazine’s rankings, but Harvard has been ranked slightly better consistently. I want to be around the best minds in the country. Where should I go? </p>
<p>As you can see, you would find such a series of questions ridiculous. By being brash with you on an anonymous forum, I’m helping you out because you won’t make the same mistake twice in an arena where it really matters. I would suggest that you read up on this industry and acquaint yourself with the culture.</p>
<p>If you actually got into Wharton, you would know that it is the best undergrad business school out there. Mendoza does not even come close (in fact many steps below) the level of Wharton.</p>
<p>I fully afree with Kafkareborn. Mendoza is respectable, but for undergrad business nothing comes close to matching Wharton. Both schools would give you a an amazing education, but if you want to go into business then it would be borderline crazy to turn down wharton for pretty much any other school/program</p>
<p>Wharton by like 10 million trillion miles! BEST undergrad business school out there (and first undergrad business school EVER by the way).</p>
<p>yeah yeah i understand. i kneww wharton was amazing but i included in my question something like with a “good environment to learn in”
like…are the people/professors nice
like im a devout catholic, so the fact that i’d be in a catholic environment at ND i didnt know if that would afffect it
if people would be so cutthroat to the point where getting an education at wharton would just be a hassle and unenjoyable
i want job security, but i want a job that i dont hate doing everyday just because of the kind of environment i was in when i was learning how to do the job :\
thats all. and i appreciate your clarifications kafkareborn</p>
<p>Sayrah, didn’t you apply to Wharton ED? And didn’t you express great disappointment when you were deferred (including starting the “Official Deferral Support Group” 
)?</p>
<p>Why the sudden change of heart and self-doubt?</p>
<p>We can’t evaluate these sorts of things for you. For example, your desire for a “good environment to learn in” could mean small suburban schools for some kids or large urban schools for others; it’s all very subjective. Wharton is competitive, but it doesn’t sound like it’s become so cutthroat as to be a hassle, for the most part kids help eachother and work together. . .and if you think living in philly for a couple of years could potentially ruin a career for you then you should probably look into other careers. I was iffy about living in philly at first, but the UPenn campus is actually set off by being across a bridge from the financial district and is very well maintained and safe.</p>
<p>Notre Dame does have a very large, devoted alumni network which I hear can be useful in making business connections. However, I have not heard that much about Notre Dame’s reputation as a university (it may be because I’m not Catholic), but with Penn, not only do you have Wharton, you have one of the most esteemed research universities in the world.</p>
<p>some of the answers on this thread just sound soooooo elitist. fortunately not <em>everyone</em> here is so like “wharton is the best because IT IS wharton”. but i guess thats the answer youll get from prefrosh who cant yet substantiate exactly <em>why</em> wharton is great.</p>
<p>i think wharton (and penn in general) is a good learning environment. competitive people aren’t necessarily bad. if anything they makes you work harder, and being at the top of the curve sometimes is a really nice reward. most of the professors are approachable and willing to help you. i think the great thing about wharton is the number of classes that you can choose from. there are so many departments that offer so many classes, and you can find yourself taking MBA or even PhD courses as an undergrad. </p>
<p>in essence, with the classes you choose to take and how hard you work in them, you create the learning environment for yourself. i’m taking more difficult classes than i have to because for me, a good and ideal learning environment is one that allows me to push myself to the limit. im not willing to sacrifice taking classes that really make me work hard and think for, say, an additional 0.3 points on my GPA. what exactly do you think is a good learning environment?..(so we can you give more relevant help.) penn is so big and offers so many opportunities that you can certainly find the learning environment that you think is best for you. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t let religion factor in your decision. I’m catholic and really like the church here, and i know they hold tons of events (even though i have yet to go to one so far), if you’re looking for that. I also don’t really buy ND’s “we’re catholic and therefore more ethical and full of integrity” claim that ive heard either. For the most part, people coming from Mendoza aren’t going to be more moral than those from Wharton. How could ND even prove this…number of convictions? lol</p>
<p>Poeme, by discussing this you give it credibility. If the OP wishes to go to ND, let her. That just leaves one more place for someone who wants what Wharton has to offer. If the OP wants to go to Wharton, well, she will be at Wharton and you will have won.</p>
<p>thanks for all the advice everyone
upenn has been my number 1
the only reason i looked at ND is that (for some reason) i felt like it was an honor to get in…
the whole upenn/wharton thing was really big for me during ED time and wore off a little bit because the deferral hit me hard and i tried to move on knowing the statistics of being accepted after deferral–therefore i looked at other schools 
then last sunday i heard from ND and was accepted and so i was delighted that they wanted me after one evaluation of my application
i guess i expected to be rejected from wharton this time around and now im just confused like whaaa—
still in the state of shock mindset lol
but im 99.999999999999999% sure im going to wharton
i just wanted to weigh my options</p>
<p>Sounds like you almost talked yourself OUT of Penn to avoid any further disappointment, and now that you’ve made it, have to talk yourself back IN!</p>
<p>Remember what drew you to Penn/Wharton in the first place, and keep in mind that the RD admit rate for Wharton is INCREDIBLY low–in the Harvard range. You should be very proud . . . and excited! :)</p>