<p>So, if I wanted to go to Penn, is it better to apply to the College than to Wharton? I do not want to extinguish my chances of going to Penn just because I chose to apply to Wharton and not the college.</p>
<p>Is Wharton worth applying to (w/ a higher chances of getting denied) or should I play it safe and apply to the college?</p>
<p>If your goal was to just go to Penn, regardless of where in Penn, the obvious choice is college, since it's got a much higher accept rate. However, if you really want to do the Wharton program, then it's pretty obvious what to choose. Or you can apply to a dual degree program, like Huntsman or Vagelos, and choose College as your "if I don't get into dual degree program" option. </p>
<p>and I personally think Wharton is definitely worth taking that risk for if that's what you're interested in.</p>
<p>Your decision should be entirely about interest. If you want to study business, choose Wharton. If you want to study something else, choose the college, nursing, or engineering. That's it.</p>
<p>You should apply to whichever school has the major program you want.</p>
<p>does anyone know or can approximate separate acceptance rates for wharton and the college?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>I want to study business but is going to the college fine? I have a tendency to think that Wharton is the only penn school to apply to if I want to pursue a business career.</p>
<p>Acceptances:
College 2,257
SEAS 762
Wharton 471
(source: Admission</a> rate drops to record low 15.9% - News)</p>
<p>As for the number of applications, they don't say
(Applications</a> increase 10 percent - News)
They only list increases:</p>
<p>College: 7% increase
SEAS: 17%
Wharton: 13% increase</p>
<p>Sooo I just go back farther into the DP archives to see what they were the year before when they DID list them.</p>
<p>College: 12,999
SEAS: 2,924
Wharton: 3,938</p>
<p>(Applications</a> up 8 percent from last year - News)</p>
<p>So we apply the increases to get the number of applicants:
College: 12,999 x 1.07 = 13908
SEAS: 2,924 x 1.17 = 3421
Wharton: 3,938 x 1.13 = 4449</p>
<p>SO, looking at acceptance rates:
College 2,257 / 13908 = 16.2%
SEAS 762 / 3421 = 22.2%
Wharton 471 / 4449 = 10.5%</p>
<p>Now that I've gone through the trouble of calculating that, I'd like to have a word with you:</p>
<p>I would recommend against Wharton simply because an undergraduate education with focus on business is inherently uninspiring.</p>
<p>Apply to SAS, major in econ or PPE or IR, whatever, and take some Wharton classes. Your odds of getting in are (marginally) higher, you'll be happier, more broadly educated, and you'll still get a shot at the same amazing job opportunities a Penn education opens up to you.</p>
<p>That's what I did, and in the end I got an amazing job offer. My IR classmates have also gotten jobs in banking, consulting, private equity, etc.</p>
<p>What about attending the college?</p>
<p>um, SAS is the college...</p>
<p>Yeah. SAS, CAS, College are all referring to the same thing.</p>
<p>Anyway, it's fantastic.</p>
<p>ilovebagels, thankyou for the calculations</p>
<p>Thanks for the thanking. I'm just a SAS student so I barely have opposable thumbs. It took me 18 hours to calculate.</p>
<p>Of course, the #s show that if you want the HIGHEST chance of getting into "Penn" you should apply to engineering (or perhaps nursing). But, you protest, you're not interested in being a nurse or an engineer. So why would you apply to the College if you wanted a business education, or vice versa?</p>
<p>I recently applied to the SAS, but, after applying, I have been told by other people that Penn seems to favor Wharton students over SAS students. Would you say that this is true?</p>
<p>No, that's anti-Penn FUD.</p>
<p>The only thing you can't do is reserve private study rooms in Huntsman Hall--you can reserve private study rooms at Van Pelt, or use any of the public study rooms.</p>
<p>Except for MGMT-100, you can take any Wharton class (and since almost nobody likes MGMT-100, you're not missing much). Conversely, Wharton students can take almost every SAS class (with the exception of HIST-2xx level courses). SAS students can take classes in Wharton, Law, Annenberg, Nursing, SEAS...</p>
<p>Penn and Wharton students all have the same job recruiting process and both schools fare very well (so does SEAS, for that matter).</p>
<p>Maybe it was true a decade or so ago that Wharton students had super powers over SAS students. But times have changed.</p>
<p>Percy is right, though. If you want undergraduate business and don't get into Penn Wharton, then NYU Stern should be your next choice, not Penn SAS.</p>
<p>Now I would recommend against undergraduate business in general, but that's another story...</p>
<p>stepping out of my normal dogma,</p>
<p>wharton/college dual degrees are where the smartest (non hard sci) students in penn are found in terms of mental brain power. however,</p>
<p>i see many kids seduced by the easy money to focus on the wharton approach to work (complete each assignment well and don't look back) as opposed to the humanities approach (cotemplate passionately before during and after an assignment the layers of explanations). Granted, each has its pros and cons. Maybe the two approaches are even contradictory.</p>
<p>the greatest trick of all is to embrace both enough as to become both a corporate head hunter as well as a man of the academic sphere</p>
<p>you don't know what headhunter is, do you?</p>
<p>imho, smart is many different things that can't be discerned by major choice. I think, however, that the wharton kids have a huge range of intelligences. Some are brilliant, most are very smart,... but quite a few are well below ivy standards.</p>
<p>close enough...esshole</p>
<p>Does it really make such a big difference? I mean if you can take almost all Wharton courses as a College student? </p>
<p>Also, is it actually possible to go to the College for the freshman year and then decide to get a double degree from the College and Wharton? Or is it too late once you're in?</p>