<p>What are the average stats for an ivy league recruit?</p>
<p>GPA / SAT / EC's / etc.</p>
<p>Thanks :)</p>
<p>4.2 gpa weighted / 2280 SAT (superscored) / 35 ACT Comp </p>
<p>n=1</p>
<p>HTH</p>
<p>Not my S, but his friend SATs all low 700s, GPA 92(unweighted),state top 5 in individual sport/All American, to the big H. It’s not the numbers, it’s reaching the bar if you’re the best…Also heavily recruited for Brown and Cornell… A few ECs, but the kid lives/works/sleeps his sport all year</p>
<p>I believe the low bar for is set at 600/section on SAT. But obviously these spots are reserved for the top, top athletes in hard sports, as for the others I think it varies based on demand, but I’d guess 2100-2200 all the way up to perfect stats. Personally, I’m 4.0uw/4.4w/36act with a few ECs. I’m guessing the vast majority of Ivy athletes were in the range, and some may have been accepted on their own, but they benefit from the security of being in vs. the infamous crapshoot. Also, this was discussed on another thread, but I doubt many ECs are expected, as athletics are a pretty big EC</p>
<p>varska’s daughter (post #2) and 10scholar (#4) are not average. Average is probably more like 2100+/-, 3.8UW. The typical overachieving CC member (Chance me for HYPS; I got a B once OMG; should I retake my 2340?) would sail through admissions w/ athletic support.</p>
<p>Hard sports=600 per section on the SAT. GPA depends on your school. Son’s school goes to the the low 3’s.</p>
<p>The two Ivy recruits (and current Ivy athletes) I know personally were </p>
<p>NMF: 700 plus on all three SAT sections,
class rank top 5/650,
ranked top 50 nationally in their sports </p>
<p>other ECs:
academic pursuits including selective summer programs (not the open invitation, overpriced ones),
participation in audition orchestra/choir,
school leadership including NHS and/or class officer</p>
<p>Sports related ECs:
team captains
Service group leadership at school
Helping with/organizing community events involving their sport.<br>
instructor/coach at sport-related summer camps (volunteer and paid)</p>
<p>Part-time job
Both had summer jobs involving their future career interests</p>
<p>Please don’t extrapolate this to mean Ivy recruits should always have these things. These are two data points.</p>
<p>My D scored 740-800 on every section of the SAT, and has a resume just like what riverrunner describes above. While on official visits, D heard other recruits discuss their stats and sports standings (it’s a timed sport). Of the girls whose SAT scores she found out, all were a bit lower than hers–in the 2100 range. Their sports standings fell in the top 150 to top 10 range nationally.</p>
<p>D’s weaknesses which might have excluded her from Ivy admission were she not an athlete, were her SAT II and AP scores (good but not great), and community service (not much except what she did through a summer internship).</p>
<p>S: 3.95uw; 34 ACT (no SAT); 740 SAT IIs (2 subjects). 6 APs through end of jr yr (5s). School is very small and does not rank. No real ECs (who has the time). League Player/Pitcher of the year (every yr) [extremely weak league]. County record holder [multiple records] in key measures of position. Plays on an elite scout team. Part time job. Heavily recruited by 6 of the Ivies. Modestly recruited by 1 other. Recruited by several D1 powerhouses in his sport (sport based scholarships offered).</p>
<p>Just learned of two more signees to the same Ivy, both from my son’s club soccer team. These boys both attend a small public school. One has an SAT of 1850, ACT of 28 and GPA of 3.3. The other has GPA of 4.0 and SAT of 2050. At his private school, there are always several Ivy recruits (particularly for basketball); announced GPA’s have been in the low to mid 3’s. One boy recently verbally committed (yes, fall of junior year) and does not yet even have test scores.</p>
<p>Hey stemit, I’m just curious: any reason why that one particularly Ivy did not recruit you? I’m worried that something like that will happen to me and, even worse, I’ll set my sights on the one school that just happens to not be interested in me. I read your son’s athletic credentials and was impressed; I’m rather surprised that one of the Ivies didn’t respond, period.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t go by an average student. I barely broke 1900 on my SAT’s and was still heavily recruited by the majority of the ivy league. I also ended up getting into my dream school with it.</p>
<p>M:</p>
<p>Luck of the draw. Could be anything. We didn’t dwell on it; it made no difference. “Control what you can control!” (A quote attributed to Yale Baseball Head Coach John Stupor.) </p>
<p>Evaluate many possible schools from many different angles. </p>
<p>For S, he came out of the April visits with one school the clear favorite; that school turned out to not even make his final four list. S did not really consider Ivy league schools until the April visits – and we visited more non-Ivies then Ivies for those visits. (He did not know if athletically he had the chops for that level – he blossomed late; and the weather isn’t warm and sunny every day!)</p>
<p>Be open minded and flexible. What may interest you this year (e.g., a certain program, size, location) may change/evolve over the next year. Coaches may be better suited to your personality at one school, but not at another (coaches do move around; though the Ivies seem to be fairly stable in S’s sport). Teams have different needs in different years. And you may want to peer into a roster to make sure, for example, that there isn’t an Ivy all-american playing in your position (the only position you play).</p>
<p>I am a believer that you youngins are very adaptable to a wide range of circumstances and possibities - and if you’re on this site, bright enough to make the most of your opportunities. Many schools will turn out to be great matches – you have great academics and great athletic potential. While the process seems stressful for some (mostly parents), in the end, the student/athlete will indeed find a perfect place (mostly because he/she puts themselves “out there,” seizes the moment [or four years], and makes the university the “perfect place” over the life of his/her undergraduate time).</p>
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<p>With recruiting, you do have to be flexible. Chances are the school that you pursue won’t necessarily be the school that pursues you.</p>
<p>tough to guess on an average. and I agree with oldB the better the athlete the lower the acceptable stat threshold.</p>
<p>my guess for a solid early recruit D1 athlete to an Ivy: Average Stats: SAT 2000, GPA 3.8uw with at least 3 AP classes. not that high compared to straight academic admits, but way higher than most hs graduates.</p>
<p>I agree with pach- my S-not a state level athlete, but tops in our area in a “niche” sport, “not competitive enough” for Amherst with only a “tip” according to the coach with 4.0 IB, top 5% of his class, ACT 31 and average SAT2 660, fab ECs and community service. So it really depends on the sport and how good you really are. I think 700s sit a lot better with admissions.
And it really does matter what your test scores are, unless you are “interesting” or fill some kind of “crafting a class” slot…</p>
<p>The NESCAC’s do require higher stats than the Ivies for athletes. A bit less leeway (according the what the Williams coach told my son’s teammate).</p>
<p>From what I saw, the NESCAC’s for my sport could get 1 “slot” (I assume this is of the 66 they designate" of kids they could pull in with more average stats, maybe ~30 ACT. After that, at least at Amherst (according to coach), they needed a 32+ACT(and strongly preferred 33+)/720+ on every SAT section and extremely good grades. A friend of mine who would’ve been a strong recruit for them had a 33 and great grades at a top prep, but had one bad grade freshman year, and couldn’t get past the pre-read because of it. So basically, if you’ve got these stats, it’s fairly easy to secure a “tip” into Amherst and Williams, and the coach said he could get 4-5 guys with these. Middlebury appeared to slightly lower the bar, and indeed that’s where the friend I mentioned before committed to. But the bar is insanely high to begin with.</p>
<p>I think Williams is the hardest school in the country to get into based on admissions selectivity. It’s around 7%, a tad more difficult than Harvard or Stanford.</p>
<p>do people actually go to these schools? It seems too difficult to get in to, to actually have students:)</p>
<p>Not to storm on Williams’ parade, but its admissions rate is 17% according to USNews.</p>