What are "good grades" in theatre?

<p>Is he looking to be a performer on a cruise? If so, it’s likely easier for boys. You should probably start a separate thread. (Did you search the MT forum for cruise job info?)</p>

<p>I’m sure there would be plenty of options for your son to get good BFA training if that is what he decides on. Pretty much, conservatory = intense, as with Rutgers, Purchase, etc, but maybe he doesn’t need a conservatory per se.</p>

<p>At least a couple of parents who participate here have kids who have studied at home as your son does. Maybe a thread on that would be apropos as well!</p>

<p>As I have said to people here before, college isn’t going anywhere. There is no reason that anyone needs to go to college NOW. They can go some other time.</p>

<p>And as I have also said, today in the 21st century there are many many succesful people without college educations, particularly in the entertainment field.</p>

<p>If your son wants to get a job on a cruise ship, I think that would be what he should do. Maybe after having a look at the world he will decide that he needs a college degree, at which point he will go to college and be properly motivated. Or maybe he will find a satisfying life that does not involve a colelge degree.</p>

<p>(I first went to college right after high school, and didn’t understand why I was there so I was not motivated to go to class and do the work. I dropped out and then a few years later figured out what kind of degree I wanted, so went back to college with a good motivation)</p>

<p>Generally in theatre, boys have an easier time than girls. There are usually more parts for males, and at the same time fewer males auditioning. That isn’t true 100% of the time, but generally.</p>

<p>If your son does decide to go to college, his 2100 SAT score is VERY GOOD! And many many homeschooled children today go to college. You may want to talk about this with other homeschoolers, or get a book on the subject (because this theatre subforum is a bit specialized). Colleges are now looking for “strange” students, for diversity, and like students with interesting stories.</p>

<p>I don’t see any reason why your son would not be succesful in achieving whaterever dreams he may have.</p>

<p>KEVP</p>

<p>A couple misconceptions here:

  1. “Tisch & CMU”-- While both NYU and Carnegie Mellon are academically prestigious universities, to group them together as far as admissions to their drama programs go is a mistake. Tisch considers grades heavily, but decisions at CMU rest almost entirely on the audition. In other words, at CMU, grades are less relevant, so low ones are ok.
  2. 2100 is NOT low! That couldn’t keep him out of any audition-based program I can think of, including Tisch.</p>

<p>To call a 2100 bad on the SAT is just- well, I have no words! My daughter didn’t score near that and she got into every college where she applied. Her grades were very high so that helped. Of course, she didn’t apply to Northwestern either! She did get into Rutgers and Penn State, FSU, and NIU. My son is at NYU and also has outstanding grades. His SAT score was good but not a 2100. We also know a kid who has terrible grades and he got into CMU. Still- I can’t believe a 2100 is considered low- Geesh!</p>

<p>I don’t think that the grades are THAT important, it is stated above that USC wants around 2020 for the SATs however I got into the BFA acting program at USC with a 1850. My friend with a 2100 who applied to another department got rejected.
In schools such as SUNY Purchase, you first get accepted into the Actor Training program which does not have anything to do with your grades. Later on, your name is sent to the admissions office so that they can review your transcript to see if your grades are suitable for the school. So I think you would be fine with average grades.</p>

<p>I didn’t mean to be insulting at all. I didn’t call the 2100 ‘bad’-- that was for my son’s grades or lack of grades. It was more that the SAT was ALL he had in terms of stats (this is what the thread is about), and I think that his SAT scores would need to be better if he was relying merely on SATs. It’s very competitive out there. A kid who has a 2100 and nothing else, no grades at all–well, that was my question, where would he be able to apply to. Sometimes in CC you can post something and then part of it gets quoted and discussed out of context and people react to that little thing. I know I’ve done that too. But I would never think that a 2100 is bad! </p>

<p>As for other suggestions, thanks-- I think this is a great discussion because kids are so different. Right now he’s leaning toward auditioning for a cruise line next year - lots of time to change his mind! - so I’ll start a thread when I can gather my energy for the next kid up…</p>

<p>Hoveringmom, I think your concern is due to you comparing your son’s SAT’s to your daughter’s. I’m assuming your daughter’s were stellar since she got into Northwestern which is based on grades and SAT’s, not an audition. From our experience 2100 would be high enough for any of the top BFAs. That score is way higher than Michigan’s and BU’s average and is in a perfectly good range for NYU. And just so you know, CMU does not care at all. Yes, it is an acdemic powerhouse, but for their BFAs they don’t care. It’s all about the audition. Obviously if he was capable of getting them higher, it may lead to scholarships. Schools like high SAT scores. It boosts their stats. </p>

<p>His SAT’s will not prevent him from getting into ANY BFA program. It will depend on his audition.</p>

<p>Wow, Mommy5, thanks for this advice. This is very reassuring. I didn’t know that a school like CMU didn’t care about anything but the audition; actually I wouldn’t have known that a school like Rutgers doesn’t care either except that from talking to a couple of people in the program, it seemed that they didn’t.</p>

<p>And you’re right, probably I’m falsely comparing my son’s to my D’s. But also we NEED the scholarships so I’m very anxious on that level–better stats help a great deal. </p>

<p>Again, apologies to people I inadvertently offended. I truly did not mean to suggest scores below 2100 were bad! That would be silly. I should have been more careful how I phrased my original post, but I’m always writing these very quickly, in between driving my kids here and there, or just before work, or whatever.</p>

<p>Be careful when quoting average SAT’s from some of these schools. I highly doubt the extremely high SAT scores are from incoming BFA students. Talent is the main factor in all conservatory training even at scholastically challenging institutions like CMU, NYU and UM.</p>

<p>Hoveringmom:</p>

<p>2100 is a VERY GOOD SAT</p>

<p>LOTS of homeschooled students go to college. The 2100 SAT is one proof that his homeschooling was succesful. I don’t know anything about homeschooling, but so many homeschooled students go to college that I KNOW there is a way for them to get admitted. You need to talk with more people who know specifically about what to do with the question “How does my son get into college when he was homeschooled and so doesn’t have any grades?” I know there is an answer to this, but I just don’t know the answer. I’m pretty sure this is addressed in books on homeschooling.</p>

<p>But if your son doesn’t want to go to college now, I don’t think it is a good idea for him to go. That much I know from my own experience.</p>

<p>KEVP</p>