What are my chances at top schools? Ivy league, Duke, Georgetown...

What are my chances? What can I do to to improve my chances? I’m a sophomore, white female, lower class, immigrant from Russia, living in orange county NY. My public school is pretty good for the area.

HS GPA rn is 96 (weighted) but I will get it up to a 97 or 98 by senior year
Have not taken the SAT’s yet but I’m practicing

freshman year gpa was around a 95, classes were:
-No ap classes for freshman but I had one pre-ap and 1 honors

Sophomore year gpa right now is around a 98.5, classes are:
-AP world (only ap sophomores can take)
-Honors English, honors biology
-all other classes regular
-orchestra
-italian
-scientific research class

Junior year I will probs take APUSH, AP environmental science, AP English lang, and honors Alg 2, honors chem

Not sure what I will take senior year but it will probably be 3-5 AP’s

Extra:
-Mock trial
-SADD
-Track
-Community service at town court
-Might attend law & trial program offered by Envision at Stanford
-Might take a psychology class at a community college because I want to take the AP psych exam but it’s not offered at my school
-Doing independent research on Lyme disease through my science research class
-Might volunteer abroad, possibly Nepal, before senior year

These are the top schools I’m interested in, order from which i like most to least. of course I know some are incredibly hard to get into.

  1. Princeton
  2. Yale
  3. Cornell
  4. Brown
  5. Georgetown
  6. Duke
  7. Dartmouth
  8. John’s Hopkins
    Thanks!

How are your standardized test scores?
I think an area you might want to work on would be your GPA. I’m not exactly sure how the 100-point scale works, but I think the closer to 100, the better, especially if it’s weighted. Your independent research sounds interesting–will you be publishing/involved in a study? Also, what kind of volunteering are you doing in Thailand? That could definitely catch the attention of colleges.

It appears that you do a lot of volunteering. Although that’s definitely good (for the world as well as your college applications), you may want to branch out more and try to involve yourself in more competitive activities. Mock trial is a good place to start. I’m in mock trial and one thing that my school does is apply to quite a few local invitationals [which can be found through a quick Google search or a look at your state’s bar website’s mock trial section (or at least that works for my state)]. I also recommend Empire Mock Trial–it’s an international competition that has a longer case, which is argued at a 4-day competition in either New York City, San Francisco, or Atlanta. This program is actually rather prestigious and can be difficult to get into depending on your team’s track record. It’s also pretty pricey–upwards of $1600 depending on your team size–but in my opinion, it’s well worth it. The case was about 300-400 pages long, which is about 3-4 times the size of my average state case. Also, you argue in federal courthouses and have the two added roles of the pretrial evidentiary argument and guest witnesses. I’m going into wayyy too much detail on Empire but it really was an experience to remember (and one that looks wonderful on applications).

You might even want to join a sport to show that you seek competition and like to challenge yourself. I like to think of it this way: extracurriculars like volunteering and being a part of a noncompetitive club are similar to getting points for class participation, but competitive extracurriculars are similar to getting points for taking tests and writing papers. You could join 100 noncompetitive clubs and not appeal to most colleges, or you could do 2-3 competitive activities and attract more interest.

You could also try to seek leadership positions within your extracurriculars. I think it’s good to have some variety in your resume (SADD and Lyme disease research are vastly different), and leading different areas can show schools that you are a capable leader.

In the end, you want colleges to want you. Having grades and test scores and volunteering alone are not going to get you into a school like Johns Hopkins–they more or less qualify you to even be considered a potential student. You need to show schools why you should be the student they admit. You need to show them why you stand out from the crowd. I think that you definitely have the potential to do that–seek leadership positions and try to excel in the areas you’re interested in. Your ECs seem to be a little scattered (so are mine) so maybe try to find the one you care most about and really delve into what you want to get out of that activity. I personally did that with law–I joined mock trial and fell in love with it, so I tried (and am still trying) to surround myself with things related to it (I joined Youth in Government, ran for Student Government, joined every mock trial opportunity I was offered, memorized the Rules of Evidence over the summer… it was intense). But under rule 401, that’s irrelevant. I think you just really need to show schools why you’re different from the thousands of other highly qualified applicants.

As a fellow sophomore, I am going through the same process right now of figuring out which areas I need to improve upon. Sorry if I seem blunt–I really didn’t mean to be! I think you’re highly quailified–you just need something to give you that extra push. Also, be sure to take everything I said in here with a grain of salt–I’ve been researching schools like Harvard and Yale since like 7th grade, which hardly makes me an expert.

Hey, maybe we’ll be Harvard buddies one day (fingers crossed)? This was really, really long. Sorry about that.

Good luck in these next couple years!

@Katee114 You seem to be somewhat on the right track, but of course a lot will change between now and senior year. What are your test scores like? Start studying now for the PSAT/SAT or act as that might give you an advantage coming up. Also, be looking for leadership in these EC’s you can use to present yourself with. The current one you have now are quite good, just need to find leadership as well. Only drawbacks I see here are that your classes aren’t very rigorous or advanced, especially in math. Most sophomores are either completing algebra 2 right now or already did in 9th grade, same goes for chemistry. Is there a way you can take these over the summer so that you can get into precalculus/calculus or other advanced courses sooner? Not having a chuckload of advanced classes will basically disqualify you from any Ivy. Also, parting advice, do NOT do programs at Envision. As someone who did one before, they are targeted scams to siphon money that aren’t beneficial to your college admissions. Look for actual competitive programs that shouldn’t even cost money that require essays, LORs, transcripts, etc. Best of luck. You’re almost there but there’s work to be done.

Hey, can any of you guys tell me what my chances are for ivy leagues and other good colleges like Georgetown, Duke, John’s Hopkins etc? And any advice you have or any activities or such that I can do to increase my chances? I’m currently a sophomore.

White female, lower class, immigrant (from Russia), living in orange county NY

Current high school GPA is 96 but I will work to get it up to a 98 (its on the 100% scale, honors and AP weighted)

This is my current schedule:
-One AP:World history
-2 honors: English, bio
-Regular geometry
-Scientific Research class
-Italian
-Orchestra

Next year I will probably take:
-AP living environment
-AP English
-AP US history
-Honors Chem
-Honors Alg 2
-Science Research
-Orchestra

Not sure about senior year classes but I will probably take 3-4 AP’s

Extra curr:
-Mock trial
-SADD
-Community service at my town court
-I will volunteer at hospital my junior year
-I’m going on a law& trial program offered by Envision at Stanford this summer
-Doing independent research on Lyme disease through my science research class
-Will volunteer abroad, possibly in Thailand, before senior year
-My school doesn’t have AP psych but I’m interested in it and taking the AP exam, so I may take Psychology at a community college

I know I may be reaching a bit with the schools I listed but this is really my dream. What could I do to improve my chances? Thanks!

@Pastpower What other programs would you recommend outside of Envision? I know it’s not gonna be super beneficial for college but I would still like to go if they give me financial aid (still waiting on it). I do understand it’s kind of a scam but it honestly just looks fun. I looked into programs at brown (summer@brown program) and some others. Any you know of/ recommend? thanks

@margeu Thanks for the reply and I definitely don’t mind that it’s lengthy! I’m gonna definitely try and get a leadership position in mock trial and SADD by senior year. Also I want to start my own club or some kind of school event but I’m not sure what I should do.
The problem with mock trial at my school is that my team is uhhhh not the best? lol don’t want to sound mean but it’s kind of true. It’s probably my favorite EC that I am involved in but there’s a ton of people who don’t show up to meeting and then try to show up to the trials, and there’s others who just sit there so they can put “I did mock trial” on applications. I really love it, and I think I’m good at it individually, but my team’s lack of commitment and work makes it very difficult to do any competitions. Any advice for that?
Also my resume is very scattered because I’m really not sure what I want to pursue when I’m older. I’m thinking law, medicine, or business/finance and obviously those are all very different so it makes it hard to pick activities. As for the Lyme disease, I am trying to perform an independent experiment on Lyme diagnosis hopefully by 2019. not sure yet.
If we’re both in Harvard in 2020, we’re definitely getting coffee together (fingers crossed)

For the mock trial problem: I totally see where you’re coming from. Honestly I’m not sure if there’s much you can do—my school is super nerdy so we have upwards of 30 people in trial and everyone is really passionate about it. Having practices directly after school always helps, and having fun mock trial things (my team does super dorky team bonding activities for almost half of our practice time) might help get people more involved. Sorry to hear that!

Starting a club/event is a great idea. If you have a teacher you really like, you could probably talk to them about creating a lunch club for a topic you’re passionate about.

The Lyme’s Disease research sounds interesting.

Looking forward to that coffee (knock on wood)!