What are my chances for an ivy leugue?

What are my chances of getting into an ivy league, (preferably Princeton or MIT):

GPA: unweight- 4.0, weighted- 6.0 (school does it weird)

Extracurriculars: Varsity tennis team, math team captain, science league officer, 2x AIME qualifier, FBLA National qualifier, DECA National qualifier, DECA 2x State qualifier, FBLA 3x State qualifier, TSA member for 4 years - vice president, Certamen (Latin) team, community service club, FTC Robotics 2 years - was a director second year and made it to state finals, FRC Robotics 2 years, class rank #1 award

SAT: 1560, Math 2- 800, Chemistry - 760, Physics - 760

AP Scores: Computer Science A, Calc AB, Calc BC, Chemistry, Physics1, Economics, Stat (5 for all),
APUSH, AP Lit (4 for both)

Also, if my chances aren’t high for getting into any ivy, what could I do more this year to improve my chances more, and also what are the best schools which I have a chance for?

-Thanks for the help, much appreciated!!!

MIT is not in the Ivy League. Otherwise your chances are probably about the same as most other applicants, so definitely apply to one or two safety schools in addition to the ones you want to go to.

Look at Carnegie Mellon, RPI and WPI. What is your major?

Computer science is my major

Also: UPDATE- I will have taken 15 APs by the end of high school, and I am currently going to be the Valedictorian of my class, if that helps with my post

Pick any Ivy that has ED for a better chance, then look at which has a CS program you would like.

Do I have a chance for Princeton if I apply ED?

^Maybe. The Ivy league really isn’t top for CS though. Why wouldn’t you try for the best CS schools?

Home state?

You want Carnegie Mellon.

Yes. Princeton’s SCEA admit rate last year was a bit north of 15%. You can’t have a better GPA and your SAT is almost perfect. So on stats, you’re basically among the top of the heap.

But Princeton, as is the case with most private schools, looks at things other than stats. So while quantitatively you’re at or near the top, that alone probably isn’t enough. You also need to have the qualitative portions of your app in order to give yourself the best chance possible.

And even then, you might not be exactly what P’ton is looking for. They might need an oboe player more than a sax player, for instance.

I think, rather than throwing 20 darts at the board from 20 feet away and hoping one hits the bullseye – as is the case when kids don’t care where they go, as long as it’s an Ivy or equivalent, and apply to all eight and Stanford/MIT/Chicago et al – you should, if you aren’t already, concentrate on finding schools that fit your preferences in terms of academics (duh…), environment and social vibe. Find some reaches, matches and at least one safety where you know, with a fair helping of certainty, that you would be happy and fulfilled. And able to afford your education without too much debt – run NPC!

In terms of ED/SCEA:

  • I suggest not applying ED/SCEA unless you are sure it’s your favorite school. UNLESS you are totally ambivalent, which you shouldn’t be if you are concentrating on fit… and even then you might end up liking another school more and rue the ED (moreso than SCEA…) app. So… yeah, it is best to be sure.
  • Some schools seem to give more of a bump for ED/SCEA than others:

Harvard: ~14.5%
Princeton: ~15.4%
Yale: ~17%
Columbia: ~16%
Chicago: ~20%? (must be quite high since their RD rate was pitifully low, around 2%, and overall they’re like 8%)
Stanford: ~9% (smaller bump than most…)
MIT: ~8% (almost no bump)
Penn: ~22%
Brown: ~22%
Cornell: ~25.6
Dartmouth: ~27.7%
Duke: ~24.5%
Northwestern: ~26%
JHU: ~30.6%
CMU: ~26.4% (almost certainly lower for SCS)

As you can see, there is some variability in ED/SCEA acceptance rates among schools with fairly even overall admit rates. But I don’t think you should pick a school for ED or SCEA based on admit rate. ONLY if you were completely ambivalent… and liked two or more schools equally, and knew as well as possible that your mind would not change. But it might change, and then if you were locked into ED, the only really acceptable/ethical reason for getting out of it would be if you couldn’t afford it – but here we are, advising you to run NPC. SCEA isn’t as binding, but i still think you should only do it with your fave school regardless.

Anyway, I think you have a shot anywhere because of your stats. Knock the qualitative part out of the park and only apply to schools that fit you which you can afford – a mix of reach/match/safety – and you’ll almost certainly have a happy admissions result.

Yes. Princeton’s SCEA admit rate last year was a bit north of 15%. You can’t have a better GPA and your SAT is almost perfect. So on stats, you’re basically among the top of the heap.

But Princeton, as is the case with most private schools, looks at things other than stats. So while quantitatively you’re at or near the top, that alone probably isn’t enough. You also need to have the qualitative portions of your app in order to give yourself the best chance possible.

And even then, you might not be exactly what P’ton is looking for. They might need an oboe player more than a sax player, for instance.

I think, rather than throwing 20 darts at the board from 20 feet away and hoping one hits the bullseye – as is the case when kids don’t care where they go, as long as it’s an Ivy or equivalent, and apply to all eight and Stanford/MIT/Chicago et al – you should, if you aren’t already, concentrate on finding schools that fit your preferences in terms of academics (duh…), environment and social vibe. Find some reaches, matches and at least one safety where you know, with a fair helping of certainty, that you would be happy and fulfilled. And able to afford your education without too much debt – run NPC!

In terms of ED/SCEA:

  • I suggest not applying ED/SCEA unless you are sure it’s your favorite school. UNLESS you are totally ambivalent, which you shouldn’t be if you are concentrating on fit… and even then you might end up liking another school more and rue the ED (moreso than SCEA…) app. So… yeah, it is best to be sure.
  • Some schools seem to give more of a bump for ED/SCEA than others:

Harvard: ~14.5%
Princeton: ~15.4%
Yale: ~17%
Columbia: ~16%
Chicago: ~20%? (must be quite high since their RD rate was pitifully low, around 2%, and overall they’re like 8%)
Stanford: ~9% (smaller bump than most…)
MIT: ~8% (almost no bump)
Penn: ~22%
Brown: ~22%
Cornell: ~25.6
Dartmouth: ~27.7%
Duke: ~24.5%
Northwestern: ~26%
JHU: ~30.6%
CMU: ~26.4% (almost certainly lower for SCS)

As you can see, there is some variability in ED/SCEA acceptance rates among schools with fairly even overall admit rates. But I don’t think you should pick a school for ED or SCEA based on admit rate. ONLY if you were completely ambivalent… and liked two or more schools equally, and knew as well as possible that your mind would not change. But it might change, and then if you were locked into ED you’d have to be a douche to get out of it. Unless you couldn’t afford it – that’s understandable – but here we are advising you to run NPC. SCEA isn’t as bad, but i still think you should only do it with your fave school.

Anyway, I think you have shot anywhere because if your stats. Knock the qualitative part out of the park and only apply to schools that fit you, which you can afford – a mix of reach/match/safety – and you’ll almost certainly have a happy admissions result.

The single thing you could do that would be most likely to improve your chances is to actually do something CS related this year! Write some code. Start a project. Have some fun.

Yeah Carnegie Mellon is at the top of my list. What are the best schools for a computer science major?

OP has AIME and robotics, plus Certamen is interesting. But I agree the apparent drive for “an ivy league” makes it seem this is prestige driven, rather than carefully thought through. That’s risky. You have a full self presentation to make in the app and supps and each college wants to see the right match for their wants and values. Throw in the institutional needs (incl geo diversity,) and nothing’s certain.

What I think he’s missing is some math-sci/engineering/CS experience outside the hs context. It’s not magic. But it’s what many in the very fierce competition will have.

Imo, not just programming. Lots of kids do Hello World or pong, or maybe some coding in robotics. As @prezbucky notes, qualitative matters. Here, that can be how he stretched outside the hs box, the “what else.”

Don’t forget Early includes athletes and legacies, plus other targeted institutional needs. They’ll use a fine comb on the rest. After all, in Early, they’re making a commitment, too, knowing the yield is so high.

What stuff could I do outside of school to show my interest in robotics and computer science

@dwdjwuediuw You should add other schools. WPI if you like robotics. That would be a safety for you probably. And UIUC for the CS aspect. Not a safety. You should add in Top Tier CS schools which are not Ivy League.

What is your budget and EFC?

The interesting thing is that it will be easier to get into an Ivy if you show strong interest in CS than it will be to get into one of the top 4 schools for CS. None of which are Ivies.

Apply to UW & Cal if you are full-pay. You won’t get any FA from them
Apply to Georgia Tech (has lower tuition than the others,) but won’t give FA OOS.
Apply to Michigan either way, which gives some FA for OOS residents