What are my chances for Columbia ED?

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>My dad wants me to apply ED and I keep telling him I have little to no chance but he thinks I can get in. My major would be business management, second major finance economics, third undecided.</p>

<p>GPA: 95.76% *Low in comparison to many students at my school
SAT: 2270 (800 W, 760 CR, 710 M) *2 sittings, first of which was a 2240
SAT II: 740 US History, 770 Math II
Class Schedule: AP Physics B, AP Literature, AP Macroeconomics, Honors Calc, Honors Comp Sci
Class Size/Rank: 298, no rank</p>

<p>Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Asian-American
Income Bracket: ~200k
School Type: Public
Hooks: None
Essays: 8/10? I'm a good writer or so I've been told</p>

<p>Extracurriculars/Volunteer:
1. Coordinator at Atlantic Adult Day Care Center (many hours) - Worked with health patients, organized activities, helped the in-house doctor meet and treat patients, etc.
2. Assistant at doctor's office (Many hours) - Helped meet and treat patients as well as handle the everyday workings of the office and the day-to-day operations
3. Volunteer at hospital - Greeted and met patients, helped overseer in hospital, assistant in filing, paperwork, and computer work
4. Economics Club, Vice President - Organized business ventures relating to the club, helped set up meetings and accomplish tasks relating to the club
5. Journalist for online website - Wrote articles and reviews for a music website that doubled as a blog, helped market the website as well as its related streams of revenue
6. Varsity track and field (1 season)
7. Street Vendor - Made $10,000 selling items as part of a licensed street vendor while in China
8. Tutoring English for Arabs and Chinese seniors
9. Write and record own music (nothing major)</p>

<p>Here are some of my school's stats for Columbia:
Average Accepted GPA: 100.22 (I have a 95.76) *** My GPA is considered pretty low in comparison here, but I have shown a great upward trend since freshman year. Eliminate my freshman year grades and early sophomore, and I would have about a 99.33 average, hypothetically
Combined SAT 1600: 1449 (I have a 1470)
Single SAT 2400: 2150 (I have a 2240)
Combined SAT 2400: 2172 (I have a 2270)
Acceptance Rate: 29/452 (6%)</p>

<p>I also live in NYC and likely won't need much financial aid</p>

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<p>bump</p>

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<p>You definitely have a chance, give it a shot. With ED, you would be a good candidate.</p>

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<p>@TheMaskedPanda‌ The thing is, its between applying ED to Columbia or ED to Cornell. I have a much better shot at being accepted by applying ED to Cornell, so if I apply ED to Columbia and get rejected, then apply RD to Cornell and get rejected, I could regret the decision very much so. Plus, I have not even done any Columbia ED supplements as I’ve been concentrating mainly on the Cornell ones.</p>

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<p>@MyRealName‌ then don’t ED Columbia. If you haven’t started on the essays yet, they would be rushed and that’s the last thing you want. Unless you’re an amazing writer, starting the supplements now would not be the best idea.</p>

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<p>@Wharton2020‌ I feel as though I can write adequate enough “essays” (quotations because the supplements are all 150 or 300 words and all of them but 2 are just lists) in the time allotted between now and Nov 1st and I don’t think they’ll be rushed, but not as good as if I were to take a month or two months.</p>

<p>Regardless, my chances are below mediocre and that is not an understatement. This is the scatterplot for my school’s acceptances to Columbia, school name and student name blacked out:
<a href=“http://i.imgur”>http://i.imgur</a>. com/cORIMXr.png</p>

<p>I am represented by the circle, the x’s are rejected, blue squares are waitlisted/deferred, red squares are waistlisted/deferred and rejected, and green squares are accepted.</p>

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<p>@myrealname then don’t ED Columbia but the same argument can be made with not EDing. What if you get denied ED at Cornell? And you would’ve got accepted by CU ED. You’ll make the same regret. You never know so apply where you want to apply.</p>

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<p>^that doesn’t really make much sense. Columbia is much harder to get into than Cornell</p>

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<p>@TheMaskedPanda‌ It would be a rare incidence indeed if I were rejected by Cornell ED but would be accepted Columbia ED. Its happened before where students are rejected by a school with a higher acceptance rate and accepted by a school with a lower one, but that’s largely due to a more competitive program at the other school, or bad supplements for the other school, etc. </p>

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<p>@wharton2020 @myrealname you never know with admissions. good luck. I am sure you’ll be great.</p>

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<p>@Wharton2020‌ I accidentally wrote “This is the scatterplot for my school’s acceptances to Cornell” instead of “This is the scatterplot for my school’s acceptances to Columbia” for that graph I posted</p>

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<p>One thing I forgot to mention about the Columbia supplements is that all but 2 of them are just lists of what you’ve read and watched, and the two that aren’t are only 300 word essays. I can definitely get this amount done in a week or so, and adequately. I still have to finish my Common App essay, however.</p>

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<p>@myrealname what do you like about Columbia that Cornell doesn’t have? What do you like about Cornell that Columbia doesn’t have? Might help you figure out. </p>

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<p>@TheMaskedPanda‌ Well Columbia is in New York City first of all, truly the only reason why my dad wants me to go there because its so close to home, besides that Columbia is more prestigious than Cornell. Its location is a big positive for me as well. They also offer a system that is not divided into schools, thereby its not like Cornell where one school has a lower acceptance rate over the other. That also falls in conjunction with the fact that you can switch majors with comparative ease at Columbia, whereas at Cornell you would have to apply to transfer schools and there is no guarantee you will even be accepted. I am still not 100% sure on what I want to do in life, though I am 100% positive that I will major in something english/history/business related, so that artifact about Columbia is also a big plus. As far as what one school has to offer academically over the other, nothing, they are both top institutions and my future would not change much if I were to go to one over the other. </p>

<p>Cornell obviously has the higher acceptance rate, and looking at the stats of people who were accepted ED to Columbia, they had major awards, they were top 10 in their class, 2300 SAT’s, and 4.0 GPA unweighted, significant positives in an app which I do not have. Add the fact that I’m an Asian male, that my GPA is really low compared to the top students in my class, and it’s a wrap.</p>

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<p>@myrealname as far as I can see from your post, the benefits of Columbia outweigh the benefits of Cornell. I’d say go for it because you never know with admissions. </p>

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<p>@TheMaskedPanda‌ Columbia definitely outweighs Cornell, that’s not debatable, but its a similar situation to like how a professional athlete skips college and busts in the majors. What if I get rejected by Columbia ED (a high chance) and Cornell RD (a good possibility as well)? I would have made a huge mistake and probably wouldn’t be able to sleep at night if that happened, which there is a good chance it might. That would be absolutely devastating. Meanwhile, if I apply Cornell ED, I have a fighting chance.</p>

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<p>@myrealname I don’t know what to tell ya. I also struggled with the same thing awhile back. I made the decision to take the risk and apply to a high reach over a low reach. Hopefully I made the right decision . It is a decision only you can make. It’s your call. Good luck, let me know how it goes. </p>

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<p>@TheMaskedPanda‌ Thanks for the advice regardless</p>

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<p>@1939er‌ Believe me, I know all about that. The school I’m applying to at Cornell (ILR) is a great fit for me and I strongly conveyed that in my supplement for the school and my EC’s show it as well. My heart has always lied in humanities, english, and business and those are the 3 areas I am considering at Columbia. However, I am just not 100% deadset sure on my future career and of course that poses a problem, but its not as if I have zero commitment to the communities at both schools.</p>

<p>The part about Columbia being more prestigious than Cornell is the thinking of my dad by the way, not me. I couldn’t care about which is more prestigious, at least not when it comes to two Ivy League schools.</p>

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<p>@1939er‌ That’s an interesting piece of advice. Where would I include a reference to a conversation between myself and a professor on my application, though? Do you really think I do not have time for ED, or at least time to make my application as best as possible?</p>