<p>Cal might be a top school, but it is not as prestigious as most people on here would think, why? because it is a public school</p>
<p>^^^^Now who could argue with logic like that? Don’t even bother…</p>
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<p>No, I dont think my opinion is supreme. I however believe that everyone has a right to their opinion, including high school students as long as it is justified. I have pointed out that the opinion of the past president of Michigan, and the dean of engineering at Michigan do not have the same weight as someone not affiliated with Michigan. I have also pointed out that both you and Alexandre have distorted the original argument of Gerhard Casper to suit your stance. He explicitly states his wariness about “statistics” of any kind, while you have used his statement to support your statistics.</p>
<p>Importantly, when someone provides “prima facie” evidence without a consecutive argument to support his or her opinion then that evidence does not hold regardless of whether the person is the President of Whatever university. Presidents are not Gods, neither are they infallible. They started off just like high school students too, and built on their prejudices while in academia. </p>
<p>Speaking of whether I am in academia, lets just say I am 10X way closer than you are to what you term “academe”, and that I have interacted with 10X more professors than you have in several fields. Considering that you keep calling administrators members of academe is already laughable. However, that does not mean my opinion is of more weight than someone who can justify their arguments.</p>
<p>Exactly, never in my life have I heard a public school called prestigious</p>
<p>^^So therefore it must be true. LOL. Scales1994, you are only 16 years old. You still have a lot to learn.</p>
<p>And what does that mean? I dont consider Cal or Michigan prestigious, simply because they are partly funded by tax dollars</p>
<p>^^^That is pretty simplistic. Many schools are funded by tax dollars in many different ways. For example, JHU gets hundreds of millions of dollars each year in federal funding for research. I suppose that makes JHU not prestigious in your opinion. Cornell gets state funding for some of it’s colleges. I suppose that makes Cornell not prestigious in your opinion. What difference should it make where a school gets it’s funding from? Fwiw Michigan only get 7% of it’s funding from the state.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins is getting money to do research, Cornell is partly a state school. Most people believe: Top Private= Prestigious, Top Publics= Good Schools, thats what I hear around here anyways. It’s almost certain I won’t agree with you, so let’s stop now and have a merry life :)</p>
<p>The most important thing is that Michigan has 25,000 students. 25,000 people running around with the same diploma makes your school seem less prestigious lol. Infact it reminds you of a diploma mill hehe</p>
<p>“Top Private= Prestigious, Top Publics= Good Schools, thats what I hear around here anyways.”</p>
<p>If you live in New York for example, where the state schools are for the most part mediocre, then I can understand where your attitude comes from.</p>
<p>Im from Alabama, so they are even more mediocre D:</p>
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Yeah, Oxford and Cambridge are just public schools, so is McGill University in Canada. Nobody ever think of these schools as prestigious as they are all funded by tax dollars.</p>
<p>Hehe. Now I understand. :-)</p>
<p>I would never rule out Michigan or other top publics for Med School xD Only undergrad for some reason o.o</p>
<p>@GoBlue</p>
<p>I was talking about US publics</p>
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To think top public are not at all “prestigious” is simply foolish. UM is ranked extremely highly in grad school rankings, in many different areas. By your reasoning, you should attend say Brandeis over UM. Albeit, Brandies is an excellent university, but UM is without any doubt superior. When considering schools to attend, many top students consider public and privates of such caliber equally. Obviously employers don’t go “ewww state school, go away”. Before posting gross biases and uneducated opinions, please consider what it is you’re about to say.
Personally, I do not agree with arguing X university over Y university, but that’s besides the point here. In this case, to consider any public not on par with any private is simply misinformed. You’re sixteen, which means you have barely started looking for college and you are still subject to regional biases. I’m sure most people in your area are not even aware of the what schools are “prestigious” and which aren’t. Point being, any person should be honored to attend schools such as UM or UCB.</p>
<p>“The most important thing is that Michigan has 25,000 students. 25,000 people running around with the same diploma makes your school seem less prestigious lol. Infact it reminds you of a diploma mill”</p>
<p>sefago, Columbia (26,000 students and 300,000 alums) and Harvard (21,000 students and 320,000 alums) have some of the largest alumni populations of any university. Yes, Michigan has more (41,000 students and 450,000 alums), but they are in the same ballpark where alums are concerned.</p>
<p>^^Imagine having to meet some of those 450,000 alums all over the world in every imaginable situation. Oh the horror!</p>
<p>" 25,000 people running around with the same diploma makes your school seem less prestigious lol. Infact it reminds you of a diploma mill"</p>
<p>This is probably the most stupid and nasty comment I have ever read on this board about one of the truly great universities on this planet. You lose all credibility with this one!</p>
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<p>Not again. Columbia Undergrad has maybe 7000+ students in total, while Michigan has 25,000. Including the graduate school+professional schools is a bit sneaky. We are talking about undergraduate. This is an undergraduate forum. This section is titled “College search and selection”. Really its not that difficult to figure out</p>
<p>People in college do not get the same diplomas as graduate students last time I checked</p>