<p>thanks you guys for setting me straight (:</p>
<p>How do you guys feel nyu is on the prestige level compared to these schools? Especially Stern?</p>
<p>^^^Better to ask that question in a new thread sasasa. :-)</p>
<p>Definitely Columbia, UPenn, and Stanford.</p>
<p>Dear Alexandre,</p>
<p>As someone who actually lives in the United States, I can tell you there is no way in hell that Michigan is even remotely close to Duke in academic prestige. Yes, you did attend there. Congratulations. However Michigan isn’t even the best public school in this country, a country that - need I remind you - you are not a citizen of. Michigan has its place in the northern midwest as a solid academic institution and it’s up there with Virginia, Berkeley, Texas, North Carolina, and UCLA. Yet to say that it’s a peer of small, private, selective institutions like Duke, Dartmouth, Northwestern, and Penn makes you look fairly ignorant.</p>
<p>Please focus on processing your posts to make them informative and accurate. 1 good post is significantly more commendable then 15,801.</p>
<p>Most Sincerely,
andy_college09</p>
<p>^^^Great another Duke ■■■■■…</p>
<p>“Please focus on processing your posts to make them informative and accurate. 1 good post is significantly more commendable then 15,801.”</p>
<p>He is a supermoderator, hence the large number of postings. If after 217 posts you haven’t figured that out that yet, well what can I say?</p>
<p>By the way, Alexandre was accepted to Duke but instead decided to attend Michigan. After reading posts such as yours by you and your fellow Dukies, I can certainly see why he might have been turned off by wanting to go to Durham.</p>
<p>@rjkofnovi</p>
<p>Don’t talk unless you’re spoken to.</p>
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Based on what we know about Alexandre from his posting history, he clearly made the wrong decision after having to defend his alma mater without fail on countless of threads for over 5 years on an anonymous online forum. There’s a reason why so many discussions on CC devolve into Michigan/Berkeley vs. non-HYPSM top private school arguments. It’s because no one besides you, Alexandre and a few others (basically all of which are affiliated with the two publics) thinks that Michigan and Berkeley are on par with the top 10 private schools immediately following HYPSM.</p>
<p>Someone who went to my high school actually turned all the Ivies and Stanford to go to Michigan. He loved his experience and wouldn’t trade it for anything else in the world but he has no delusions about the quality and prestige of the school. He wanted to go to a school that was close to home and he wanted to become a doctor so he had no intention of paying the extra money and going to Harvard (back when it was more expensive than Michigan In-State). However, he is completely secure about his education and his choice and acknowledges that Michigan is a fringe top 25 school so he is fully grounded in reality even though he ended up going to Hopkins med and is now a chief neurosurgeon. Also, he comes from a modest background so even a Michigan education was a sight to behold for someone who comes from a community where only a handful even went to college so there was no need to chase prestige.</p>
<p>However, Alexandre is of a different breed than this individual. He clearly belongs to wealthy Middle Eastern/European family where social connections and educational qualifications matter immensely. Yet, he chose to go to a large public school that is more meant for the “educated masses” rather than a wealthy, private school like Columbia or Duke which has more social cachet and is intended for the “privileged few”. If he had chosen to Columbia instead, he could sit back and be proud of his alma mater and its prestige like Roger Dooley (Columbia grad and creator of CC) rather than having to vociferously defend it all the time.</p>
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He’s not saying that privates in general are better than the top publics, but rather he is saying that the top 15 or so are. There’s a huge difference.</p>
<p>Michigan and Berkeley are better than 99% of the thousands of private universities out there ranging from Santa Clara on the West Coast to NYU on the East Coast. They just aren’t as good as Duke, which is one of the select few that is better. That’s not an insult but rather a commendation of U of M, which is truly one of the great universities in this country. It doesn’t bother me that Harvard is better than Duke, so why does it bother you so much to admit that Michigan is worse than Columbia, Duke, Penn, etc.?</p>
<p>“It’s because no one besides you, Alexandre and a few others (basically all of which are affiliated with the two publics) thinks that Michigan and Berkeley are on par with the top 10 private schools immediately following HYPSM.”</p>
<p>I am not sure I agree with that. There are many on CC who believe Cal and Michigan (and a couple other public universities) are on par with the best private universities. Outside of CC, our opinion is shared by most in academe.</p>
<p>“It doesn’t bother me that Harvard is better than Duke, so why does it bother you so much to admit that Michigan is worse than Columbia, Duke, Penn, etc.?”</p>
<p>Because Harvard truly is better than Duke whereas Duke is not better than Michigan.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think lesdiablesbleus had one of the best posts I have ever read on this site.</p>
<p>To Alexandre, please reread the previous post and THINK for one second. Just think. Don’t type voraciously (if you don’t know what that means, look it up. You went to Michigan so I can’t assume). Breathe, don’t react. Breathe again. Ok, now think a little harder. Breathe again. Now you may type.</p>
<p>^^^Hehe. So typical of some Dukies here at CC. I kind of feel sorry for them actually. They couldn’t get into their dream schools of HYPSM so they had to invent a thread to show why their school of choice is almost as good. At the same time they feel the need to try to demean some of the other schools who are their true academic peers. It’s really quite sad.</p>
<p>^ in all fairness to Duke, it is ranked 20 spots higher on usnews</p>
<p>^I didn’t I called out Michigan.</p>
<p>@rjkofnovi</p>
<p>Didn’t you hear to me before scrub? Listen to your superiors. Do not talk to me unless I talk to you directly. Nuff said.</p>
<p>"in all fairness to Duke, it is ranked 20 spots higher on usnews "</p>
<p>It is scales? I am looking at a USNWR rating right now of world universities:</p>
<p>[World’s</a> Best Universities: Top 400 - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/09/21/worlds-best-universities-top-400-.html]World’s”>http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/worlds-best-universities/2010/09/21/worlds-best-universities-top-400-.html)</p>
<p>Duke and Michigan sure look like peers in this one…</p>
<p>Andy -
You are being unnecessarily rude </p>
<p>Scales -
We on CC tend to only use USNWR as a basis on which to evaluate schools.</p>
<p>Rjk -
I didn’t know we were using world rankings as a basis. If we are, then NYU somehow manages to top ivies? As much as I wish that were true, it’s not.</p>
<p>I was looking at this one</p>
<p>[National</a> Universities Rankings - Best College - Education - US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings)</p>
<p>You pick your favorites and I’ll pick mine. :-)</p>
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<p>And all of a sudden, UCB isn’t even a peer of UMich? I don’t mean to fan the flames here, but that’s ridiculous.</p>