What are the worst ivy leagues to go to for pre-med?

Pre-Med & Medical School Pre-Med Topics
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<p>I'm fairly certain I know what to look for in a college if I want to do pre-med, such as how the prestige doesn't really matter. But, I do know that some Ivy Leagues such as Brown are well known for their great pre med programs. But I also don't want to apply to every single Ivy. So what are some of these schools that I don't want to apply to if I aim for pre-med?</p>

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<p>This post makes no sense whatsoever.</p>

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<p>Pretty presumptuous of u to assume you’ll get admitted into any ivy.</p>

<p>If u are going on to med school u don’t “need” any ivy or “fancy” school. U also don’t need a “pre-med” program; u can pursue any major-- even Philosophy or Art History. U just need GPA & MCAT scores.</p>

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<p>The major could make a difference in how much you challenge yourself and thus your MCAT score but there are plenty of English majors who become doctors, not just Biology majors (do “Pre-Med” majors really do the worst on MCAT of all majors? That was fascinating tidbit of data.). See interesting data on MCAT scores by major and some general discussion on the topic at <a href=“Some Statistics on the MCAT and Undergraduate Majors | A Med School Odyssey”>http://medschoolodyssey.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2010/03/30/some-statistics-on-the-mcat-and-your-undergraduate-major/&lt;/a&gt; (and similar posts on CC) posit that the choice of major (and almost certainly choice of University) could have impact on MCAT score.</p>

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<p>First of all, im going to say it’s very presumptuous you will get to pick and choose which ivy league school you wish to go to, given than there are many people with perfect ACT and SAT whom are rejected every year from those places.</p>

<p>But aside from that, there is no particular Ivy League that would be bad for you, it could only depend on which schools fits you the most, and which one you feel you can thrive at. The student creates an environment to become a successful medical school applicant, not the college. </p>

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<p>I cannot understand you, OP. What do you mean “worst” Ivies? Do you want us to tell you that if you go to Cornell, you won’t be able to apply for med school?</p>

<p>If your essay is like what you wrote, no Ivy will take you in, regardless your scores.</p>

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<p>First off, my apologies to all. I did not mean to be “presumptuous;” as a matter of fact, I think its unlikely that I’ll make it into ANY ivy. I just want to choose a couple to apply to, and I’m having trouble coming up with a few. I already know all the ivies are great schools, but I want to know which ones are not as good with pre med programs as others. Once again, sorry if I offended anyone: I absolutely did not mean to sound arrogant. </p>

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<p>Also, I don’t necessarily mean pre med programs: I mean which schools would I not want to be a pre med student at?</p>

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<p>It really depends on what you want to major in. Also some schools have more of a grade deflation like Cornell and princeton. Yale is not very science oriented. Not to say that they don’t have science but it’s newer then Princeton for example. Brown has some of the happier students, but you need to like the environment.<br>
You really need to visit and see how you feel in each school. As an example, we visited all Ivies when my son was applying and he didn’t like Harvard because he thought it was too pretentious. Didn’t like Brown because it was too free. When we visited with my daughter she didn’t like Harvard for same reason, didn’t like Columbia because it’s in the city and their core, didn’t like Uoenn because everyone seemed stressed out.<br>
So you really need to visit and see what fits you the most. </p>

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<p>momworried, can you expand upon how Yale is “not very science oriented?”</p>

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<p>The data on how many students graduate in each major are at <a href=“College Navigator - Yale University”>College Navigator - Yale University;

<p>Interesting … fewer than I expected in Chemistry/Physics but there are 11% in Biology related majors</p>

<p>Other than Biology - not as much STEM. More “Ethnic and Gender studies” majors than Engineering majors. Most popular majors are Social Sciences, History, Arts, “Multidisciplinary majors”, Psychology etc so maybe it is fair description to say it “is not very science oriented” (if you discount the Biology majors).</p>

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<p>Your thought process is all wrong. If you want to good schools, apply to good schools. The Ivies are just an athletic conference that contains 8 of the nation’s top school. “I want a good school” makes oerfect sense. “I want to go to an Ivy” is about as nonsensical as “I want to go to a school with one syllable in its name.” </p>

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<p>The best UG for pre-med (Ivy or not) is the one that fits you personally the best. There is no more important consideration than that. The other (less important) fctors are great pre-med advisory / committee, and if you do not hve unlimited resources (if you do, so skip this one), the cheapest (for you) UG is the best.
Other than that, prepare to work your ------ off at ANY place, including the lowest ranked, unknown local college. You got to have a very high college GPA no matter where you attend for UG / Med. School. Do not expect to “walk in a park” at any place, will not work even if you graduate #1 in your HS class.</p>

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<p>From your below post, what makes you think that you would have a good chance to get into an Ivy? </p>

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<p>Stats:
UW GPA: 3.9
8 AP’s by end of senior year
ACT: 35
2 800’s on subject tests
unfortunately, I have below average extracurriculars: no NHS, not even a varsity sport (only made JV). However, I do currently volunteer at a hospital, as I intend to go into pre-med.
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<p>Yes, you have the stats, but you don’t have the ECs, etc, to separate yourself from all the other high stats kids who are applying. </p>

<p>And, if you will be premed, why go to an ivy anyway?</p>

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<p>mom2collegekids, as I’ve said before, I don’t think I have a “good” chance of getting into an ivy, but I believe I do have a small chance. As for going to an Ivy, I’ve just been looking all around for schools with good pre med, and the Ivies, like Cornell and Penn, come up on that list. <a href=“http://www.america.edu/top_20_pre-med_schools_in_america.html”>http://www.america.edu/top_20_pre-med_schools_in_america.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Also, MiamiDAP, you say a school with a good pre med advisory is important: do you know where I can find information on that? </p>

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<p>Oy</p>

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<p>"Also, MiamiDAP, you say a school with a good pre med advisory is important: do you know where I can find information on that? "

  • Talk to current pre-meds at specific UG. You are going to visit the schools under your consideration and you really should visit multiple times to make sure that you are comfy there. So, talk to pre-meds there.<br>
    Frnakly, we did not know about checking this when D. applied. She just got very very lucky with her superior pre-med advisory / committee that made a huge difference with great support and timely processing of everything during application cycle. I mentioned it here, because I realized (looking back), how crucial their involvement was and in comparison to many others on CC, my D. applied much earlier with the great continuos support from her pre-med advisor. </p>
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<p>That list is stupid.</p>

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Indeed. It lists not one but two medical schools as “pre-med schools.” Columbia at least has an undergrad but Mount Sinai does not. The HuMed Program (which no longer exists, it’s now not limited to humanities and called FlexMed) does not require the MCAT so god only knows where the “average MCAT score” is coming from.</p>

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<p><a href=“The Experts' Choice: Superior Pre-med Programs | CollegeXpress”>http://www.■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■/lists/list/the-experts-choice-colleges-with-great-pre-med-programs/199/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“Best Universities for Pre-Med Students: List of Top Schools”>http://education-portal.com/articles/Best_Universities_for_Pre-Med_Students_List_of_Top_Schools.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.doctorpremed.com/pre-medical-school-programs.html”>http://www.doctorpremed.com/pre-medical-school-programs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>These are some more lists I found, could be good or bad, I really don’t know: but that’s why I look at a bunch. </p>