What college should I go to?????????

Hi, I’m a junior in high school, and I’m trying to figure out where I should try to go to college. I mostly want the following:

  1. A college in a great city with a fantastic alternative / punk / independent rock music scene
  2. A college with fairly smart students that aren't big on football and stuff.
  3. A college that doesn't have a reputation of having an immense workload, for example, a girl just killed herself at UPenn a couple weeks ago because of the workload. I'd rather have some free time here and there.

I don’t know what I want to major in. I’m good at math, but every job honestly seems agonizingly boring to me. I really want to be a musician, but I would never major in that. I want to do something practical and just try to meet cool people in the aforementioned “great city with a fantastic music scene”. If music doesn’t work out, I’d just do whatever practical thing I chose to stall with.

But anyway, I have no clue what colleges could possibly fit my description. Here are some of my numbers and stuff for reference or whatever.

weighted GPA: 4.60
unweighted GPA: 4.0
SAT: 2210
ACT: 33

Sophomore courses:

  • Honors English II
  • Honors Chemistry
  • AP US History
  • AP Calculus BC
  • Latin II
  • Choir

Junior courses:

  • Honors English III
  • AP Physics I
  • AP Government
  • AP Macroeconomics
  • AP Statistics
  • AP Psychology
  • Pre-AP Latin
  • Choir

Senior (planned) courses:

  • AP English
  • AP Physics II
  • AP European History
  • Multivariable Calculus
  • Law
  • Creative Writing
  • Choir

Cool. So if anyone has any suggestions or advice or whatever that’d be awesome. Thanks.

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girl just killed herself at UPenn a couple weeks ago because of the workload.


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Like that was NOT the reason. No one kills themselves over homework. They could always just leave the school.

For someone to commit suicide, there was likely other serious issues…likely depression, anxiety, mental illness, etc. And homework didn’t “cause” that. Mentally healthy people don’t commit suicide over homework.

Well I mean obviously it had to do with anxiety and stress, but she said it was stress due to the amount of work. It doesn’t really matter though; the point is I don’t want to go somewhere where the workload will be immensely stressful.

Have you looked at University of Michigan Ann Arbor? It’s in a mid-size-ish college town, and it’s supposed to have great academics without being too stressful. I’m not sure about the punk rock music scene…

Also, with your stats, you have a good chance at Brown. Brown is right outside of Providence, Rhode Island, which is a gorgeous city. Even though it’s an Ivy League, it has a reputation for being very liberal and placing less emphasis on perfect academics. Actually, it was voted one of the happiest schools in the country a few times.

Certainly my top choice (hence the username)…

I’ve looked at Ann Arbor a little, but I heard they don’t give much financial aid at all. I guess I forgot to mention earlier: I can only pay like max $10,000 a year, but a lot of colleges would give me aid to cover what I need I think. As for Brown, I’ve never looked into it, and I will right now, thanks.

Look into University of Southern California, they meet 100% of financial need and LA is a great city.

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Are you here to debate the legitimacy of the OP’s desires or are you here to give helpful information?

For the OP, here is a link to another thread that was started about punk, alt., etc.
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/770512-where-do-the-punk-alt-rock-scene-kids-go-to-school.html

I know UMich is known for its engineering program, which might make it in your sense having a “fairly smart” student body. However, its football scene might be too big (as their football stadium is larger than Penn State’s and they have a good football team). I’ve also never heard of any horror stories coming out of Michigan about the academics.

Does the geographical region matter? If you want an artsy scene, Bowdoin, Bates and Colby in Maine have artsy scenes. Colby might be more into its football team though. All schools are going to have a tough workload though. You can’t go to college and expect things to be easy.

No matter what, I recommend an LAC so it’s a smaller, artsier environment and you can figure out what you want to do. (Business/accounting maybe?) Washington and Lee isn’t really artsy however but has a good business/accounting program.

When you say you can pay max 10K per year will you qualify for significant financial aid or do you need significant merit aid? There is a big difference between the two forms of aid, and knowing whether or not you qualify for significant financial aid will help people point you in the right direction. Your stats are excellent but at the end of the day it is the financial package that determines what colleges are real possibilities (what is affordable).

Home state?

I think I would receive primarily need-based aid. I put in all of my parents’ information into some financial aid calculator for UPenn, and it said my tuition would go from ~$60,000 to about $9,000, assuming I got in there.

Those three Maine liberal arts colleges are excellent but not exactly in cities with good independent rock music scenes.

OP, you might be interested in the University of Georgia, which is in Athens. Athens is a small college town noted for it’s excellent independent music scene; there’s a long list of artists from multiple genres (mostly rock) who have come out of Athens, and there is actually [a Wikipedia page on the music of Athens](Music of Athens, Georgia - Wikipedia). Every summer they host AthFest - a nonprofit music and arts festival. Athens is also not far from Atlanta, which has a big music industry too. Lots of people will be into Georgia football, but lots won’t be - and it’s a above-average school that doesn’t have the reputation of being stressful. With your grades you would be eligible for their scholarships.

And since I mentioned Atlanta - Atlanta obviously has a thriving music scene in a variety of genres. There are tons of music festivals in Atlanta and lots of great nightclubs and small music venues. Much of the hype is centered around hip hop and R&B but Atlanta also has a pretty thriving indie rock community too. [Music of Atlanta](Music of Atlanta - Wikipedia) is also a Wiki page, lol. In Atlanta there’s of course Emory, but if that’s too stressful for you check out Oglethorpe University, a small liberal arts college (78% acceptance rate, but the students tend to score above-average on the SATs and from the top quarter to top half of their graduating classes). There’s also Georgia State University (more of a commuter campus btw) and a handful of smaller regional GA campuses that might be affordable for you.

Austin is another city noted for its music scene with South by Southwest and a bunch of other music festivals happening there, and the most live music venues of any city in the U.S. UT-Austin is of course the flagship there (and again - many students will be into football; many will not). There’s also St. Edward’s University, a medium-sized Catholic university; students there are also above-average but not amazing.

Nashville is another city noted for music - and not all country, either. Vanderbilt is an obvious option there, but there’s also Belmont University, a medium-sized average-ish university.

Seattle has a thriving musical culture, too - the home of 90s grunge (Nirvana, Soundgaden, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam) but has a pretty diverse musical scene overall and has alt-rock and alt-music in general there too. Seattle has University of Washington, which may or may not offer some merit aid for you - but there are also the smaller schools like Seattle University and Seattle Pacific, both of which are middling/average type universities. Tacoma is also only about 40 minutes from Seattle, and the University of Puget Sound (a small LAC) is located there.

The Twin Cities apparently have a thriving music scene. University of Minnesota is there, but St. Olaf College and Macalester are relatively close by.

And of course there’s always New York and Los Angeles. In New York you have NYU and Columbia, but also Fordham, Marymount Manhattan, the CUNY colleges, Manhattan College, Pace, the New School, St. John’s and Yeshiva. In Los Angeles there’s USC, the Claremont Colleges, Occidental, Loyola Marymount, Azusa Pacific (evangelical), Loma Linda (Seventh Day Adventist), and Pepperdine.

Perhaps Wash U in St Louis? Northwestern in Chicago? Reed (or Lewis and Clark) near Portland? Sarah Lawrence in NY?

University of Minnesota Twin Cities

OP - be very careful when figuring how much need -based aid you might qualify for at each university you consider. UPenn is extraordinarily generous. You mentioned that your “tuition” estimate at UPenn is$ 9K. If you mean that would be your net price, that would mean a family income of $70-99,999K (see table from from UPenn’s financial aid website below).

If you actually meant that your net price would be $9K tuition + $10-12K additional for room and board, that would mean your family income is $100K +. Depending on your family size, assets, students in college at the same time, etc., that income level could leave you with a MUCH higher price tag at most other schools(20-30K or more). Do NOT assume that you will left with a 9K price tag at other schools.

Most other colleges and universities are not anywhere near as generous with their need-based aid as Ivies are. Be sure to run the net-price calculator at each school you consider. If schools you are interested won"t give you enough need-based aid, focus on schools which have merit aid available in excess of your need-based aid. At most schools, merit aid which is less than your need based aid will simply replace that need-based aid. It cannot “stack” on top of need-based awards.

Also keep in mind in mind that most schools do not meet 100% of demonstrated need and that most need-based awards will include $5500 in federal direct loans and possibly an additional student/family contribution.
From Upenn’s website:

Aided Freshmen by Family Income
Class of 2018 (entering August 2014)
Income Median Total Awards Percent of Applicants Offered Aid
$0 - 39,999 $63,040 99%
$40,000 - 69,999 $59,888 99%
$70,000 - 99,999 $53,230 97%
$100,000-129,999 $45,255 99%
$130,000-159,999 $35,400 88%
$160,000-189,999 $29,240 93%
$190,000-$219,999 $25,380 67%
$220,000 and up* $21,355 18%

*Most who qualify have more than one child in college.

Many factors other than income are considered. Therefore, individual awards vary based on individual circumstances. Families with non-typical financial situations (such as business owners, owners of real estate other than their primary home, and divorced parents) are more likely to receive non-typical awards.

Emerson in Boston or Boston U.