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That’s gonna make it tougher. OTOH, if he goes to a small school, he could possibly be ON the football and basketball teams!</p>
<p>With a 35 on the ACT, it seems to me that you could look at schools like Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, and Emory. I think he’s going to be somewhat overqualified for most of the Christian schools in the South, but you might look at Wheaton in Illinois.</p>
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<p>Based on the info you gave, your son should have a lot of options. Particularly since money sounds like it’s no object, the world of college is pretty open for your son. :-)</p>
<p>If you’re pretty sure that your son won’t be going past Calc B/C, I think he could be happy in a variety of Christian colleges if that is what he truly wants.</p>
<p>I confess I am very unfamiliar with the south (it was one of the few areas that my son wasn’t interested in, though he did apply to Vanderbilt).</p>
<p>Many Christian colleges have decent math departments but not terribly deep.</p>
<p>Do you know if he’s firm about staying in the south? If so and he is a conservative Baptist, I would say Baylor would fit him well. While it’s larger than other Christian colleges, (incoming freshman class of about 3,700) it seems to have just what he wants/needs: good math, graduate level courses, tons of sports and school spirit, great music, and they do offer good scholarships for kids with great scores and gpa.</p>
<p>Covenant College is conservative but I believe it’s Reformed rather than Baptist. Cedarville is Baptist and very conservative and has a decent offering of courses. Taylor Univ. is in Indiana but is conservative and has decent offering. Wheaton and Grove City are probably too far away for him.</p>
<p>You might also head over to the Christian college forum.</p>
<p>Now, I must say that I always thought my son was headed to a Christian college, even as late as his junior year. (We’re in So. Cal as a reference point, by the way) But, because of his extensive coursework in math and physics, he will end up attending a secular school. Keep in mind that most secular schools have really strong Christian groups on campus, so I wouldn’t necessarily rule out one.</p>
<p>Feel free to PM me, as well. My son is a homeschooler, 2320 SAT, lots of math, physics, and music, and his ECs were mostly church and math/physics/music tutoring/teaching. He has some national honors/awards. He’s been accepted into an Ivy League school and a number of other schools as well and he is a strong conservative Christian.</p>
<p>Are Catholic schools ok…like maybe Notre Dame for sports interests?</p>
<p>I don’t know how strong Baylor is for math, but it has sports and he probably would get a scholarship.</p>
<p>Is your son interested in Pure Math major or the Applied and/or Computational Math major?</p>
<p>Is he a likely NMSF? How did he do on his PSAT?</p>
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He doesn’t want a huge school like many state flagships. I think he wants something smaller and more personal… But he LOVES sports and would like to have decent football and basketball teams.</p>
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<p>It’s hard to find schools with football that aren’t sizeable, unless it’s Div 2 or 3…which might mean few kids attend the games. If he wants football where kids fill the stadiums, then bigger schools are needed.</p>
<p>Or, if just having basketball is ok, then he’d have more options.</p>
<p>I would second Davidson and perhaps Furman, as well. Davidson is not conservative but academically, is very rigorous, and their math department is good. Furman is conservative but secular and has lots of school spirit, from what I am told.</p>
<p>But really, Baylor does seem to be a fit from what I can tell. I would encourage you and your son to contact colleges this spring and get on mailing lists. (Is your son likely to be a National Merit Semi-finalist? If so, he’ll get lots of mail out of that if he checked the right box)</p>
<p>Cross posted with mom. :-)</p>
<p>Mom, I think Baylor’s ok because they’ve got strong statistics and a graduate school.</p>
<p>If he wants to stay in south, consider looking at Rice or Univ. of Texas at Austin. Both extremely strong in math and science.</p>
<p>Also, to bolster his ECs, consider doing some academic math program this summer. His testing scores are excellent, so it seems that’s the only thing holding him back from the most competitive schools.</p>
<p>Washington and Lee would probably fit the bill. Conservative, small, football team, highly ranked.</p>
<p>Lets see… good at math, not as good at writing… kind of led a sheltered life…wants to stay in the South…He sounds like a Georgia Tech man to me.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Good suggestion!</p>
<p>Rice is a good choice, but not conservative even tho it’s in Texas…it’s rather liberal actually…but to some odd extreme that a conservative might feel odd. </p>
<p>If your son has an issue with alcohol consumption, then Rice may not be the best choice. A few venues on campus serve alcohol and the students openly drink on the lawns by the grad students hangout.</p>
<p>If you want a Baptist college, Baylor seems like an excellent choice. It maybe a bit big, but the school has great sports. Plus they seem to give scholarships to Baptist students.
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<p>mom, Football and piano would be two more ticks for Williams. Division III but strong team and lots of school spirit. They like sporty kids. They also like the combination of academics + sports + arts. Even if he doesn’t intend to ever touch a piano again (let alone major in music) he should submit a performance tape/disc as a supplement.</p>
<p>Dramadad’s suggestion is good…GT. And, your son might get some merit from the school.</p>
<p>The only negative that some have with GT is that it’s heavily lopsided towards males…62%/38%…some don’t mind that. However, a student whose been homeschooled may want a more 50/50 split…or maybe not.</p>
<p>Williams may have the most exciting Math department and Math curriculum in the country. If that’s his thing, combining the intimate Math enthusiasm of Williams with the full liberal arts perspective may be one of the great experiences of his life. As an alumnus of one Baptist university and a former VP of another, I’d caution against a Baptist university for someone whose vantage point on the world has been largely centered on the denomination. There’s a much bigger, more broad-based world out there that he needs to encounter.</p>
<p>Has anyone suggested the ISI site yet?</p>
<p>If you’re looking for whether or not conservative values are tolerated well on campus, consider looking at “Choosing the Right College” here:</p>
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<p>Click on college reviews. The book is likely available at a decent sized library or you can subscribe online (as we did when my guys were searching). To see if it even appeals to you, pick three schools you’d want to know more about and put in the code 3FREE at checkout. This used to work (recently) to allow one to preview three full reports at no cost.</p>
<p>Note… this doesn’t tell you schools are conservative, but rather, how comfortable conservative students feel on campus and in class. The reports also detail out quite a bit more about campus life, etc.</p>
<p>If you want a quick overview, look for green lights, then yellow lights, and skip red lights.</p>
<p>One “issue” I have is that they only evaluate some 200 schools and there are far more out there, but for those they evaluate, it’s been quite useful in our search.</p>
<p>Your guy has the stats to be competitive anywhere. Be careful how many Bs you give him or you could be eliminating his chances at some nice places or for some nice merit aid. If he’s getting As and 5s, he’s doing A level work, but a quick overview by an adcom won’t show that and could get his application dismissed rather quickly at some top places. That wouldn’t be fair to him.</p>
<p>“You guys think he could get into Wake Forest and some of those other more elite schools even though his only EC are things at our local Baptist Church???”</p>
<p>Potentially. It’s not about where he did the activities – it’s about commitment, responsibility, leadership, passion, and excellence. If he’s been doing outstanding things for the church that no other young person has done, spending lots of time and taking on big projects that paid staff would otherwise do, that will be a big plus.</p>
<p>I forgot about the ISI guide, Creekland. We used that extensively in the initial college search. It’s not a perfect guide, though. Make sure you get an updated copy since some schools in the books have most likely tarnished their reputations as being a school where conservatives would feel comfortable since the last publication.</p>
<p>Even as a non-conservative (apolitical?) person, I liked the ISI guide. People like to pick on it, but I thought it was very helpful.</p>
<p>I guess I would ask the question, what does your son hope to accomplish during his four years in college? Ultimately, as a math major, he is going to go on to Grad school for his PhD work, so the importance of the undergraduate years is the development of him as a young man, the quality of the instruction he receives and the ability to enroll in the grad school of choice. Don’t be so swayed by the “prestige” factor of the undergraduate program. Look for quality faculty who will invest in your son from freshman year on (hard to find at large state programs), a record of success by graduates of the school applying for and enrolling in top PhD programs and the environment and culture that will allow your son to become the man you envision him to be. I have kids at a Christian college and while neither of them are Math majors, I am aware that the math department at the university has 6 full-time math professors (one of whom just won the Haimo award for distinguished college or university teaching of Mathematics).</p>
<p>Don’t think I read this anywhere on the thread. I’m pretty sure that the more elite private colleges in NC- Duke, Wake Forest, Davidson- won’t accept his community college credits. Is it worth it to lose 30+ hours of college credit?</p>