What counts as 1st generation?

<p>If someone has parents that went to college in another country, do they still count as first generation because they are first generation in the US, or is it only first generation of people that went to college? Also, does this help with admissions as much as being a URM?</p>

<p>First generation usually refers to first generation of college in USA. I believe for some CDS it is the same bump as URM, in the considered category.</p>

<p>Actually, many schools would NOT count college outside the US as first generation.</p>

<p>There are plenty of immigrant families holding masters and phds from other wonderful universities--Russia, India, etc all have great schools.</p>

<p>The 1st generation label applies to students whose parents' lack of education may have affected their economic standing.</p>

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Actually, many schools would NOT count college outside the US as first generation.

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<p>Actually this is not correct, an AdOfficer who frequents this forum did state that this is not the case. I tend to believe people who are working the Admission Office.</p>

<p>Google it. See with that first 15 hits say.</p>

<p>The thing is that if your parents both hold medical degrees from a Pakistani university and are practicing in the US. They are not going to treat you the same as a kid whose parents run a laundromat.</p>

<p>How about this:</p>

<p>I first enrolled in college 2 years ago. My mother entered college 1 year ago (for the purpose of gaining a degree to advance her position in a company). Wouldn't this make me a first generation college student and my mom second generation? (I don't really care too much since I'm already enrolled in college, but it's an interesting scenario.)</p>

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Actually this is not correct, an AdOfficer who frequents this forum did state that this is not the case. I tend to believe people who are working the Admission Office.

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<p>Sorry, but you've misquoted Adofficer and SES is correct.</p>

<p>What Adofficer actually said was</p>

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"First generation college student" usually refers to a student who does not have any undergraduate college or universitiy degrees in their immediate family, regardless where from. If your parents have undergraduate degrees - from the US, the UK, Russia, Vietnam, Uganda, wherever - you probably are not going to be considered a "first generation college student" at most places. You should ask the institutions you are applying to if you are interested in knowing. Some schools won't even consider you "first generation" if there are associate degrees in your family. It depends on the school,** but many will consider you first generation only if there is no undergraduate work done in your family (namely your parents).**

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<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4413759&highlight=generation#post4413759%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=4413759&highlight=generation#post4413759&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>what if neither parent completed college? would that still count as first generation?</p>

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Wouldn't this make me a first generation college student and my mom second generation? (I don't really care too much since I'm already enrolled in college, but it's an interesting scenario.)

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<p>Your mother would be the first generation (even though you started college before her).</p>

<p>I don't need to Google. I remember what AdOfficer wrote.</p>

<p>TRAF,</p>

<p>I just quoted and added the link to what Adofficer actually said. As I stated in my previous post, I beleive that you misquoted.</p>

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If your parents have undergraduate degrees - from the US, the UK, Russia, Vietnam, Uganda, wherever - you probably are not going to be considered a "first generation college student" at most places.

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<p>yes this is what I remember, so how am I wrong? I thought this is what I stated. Tell me how am I not correct? What part did I misquote?</p>

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Actually, many schools would NOT count college outside the US as first generation.<a href="10%20chars">/quote</a></p>

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If your parents have undergraduate degrees - from the US, the UK, Russia, Vietnam, Uganda, wherever - you probably are not going to be considered a "first generation college student" at most places.

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<p>The above 2 statements are contradictory.</p>

<p>Ok, now you've changed sides! I don't understand.</p>

<p>They say exactly the SAME THING.</p>

<p>You originally wrote

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First generation usually refers to first generation of college in USA. I believe for some CDS it is the same bump as URM, in the considered category.

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<p>to which SES responded in post # 3</p>

<p>you responded back in post # 4

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Actually, many schools would NOT count college outside the US as first generation.

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<p>Actually this is not correct, an AdOfficer who frequents this forum did state that this is not the case. I tend to believe people who are working the Admission Office.</p>

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<p>To which in post # 7 I posted and provided the link to what Adofficer actually wrote regarding first gen students. I think the disconnect is when you stated that first gen only refers to attending college in the U.S.</p>

<p>-carry on</p>

<p>No that is what I stated. Maybe I'm multitasking and it did not come out correctly.</p>

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First generation usually refers to first generation of college in USA

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<p>I think what I wrote above to say that having college degree outside of USA is not considered first generation. Only not having college degree inside the USA is considered first generation which is consistent with what AdOfficer saying.
Where is the disconnect?</p>

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First generation college student" usually refers to a student who does not have any undergraduate college or universitiy degrees in their immediate family, regardless where from.

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<p>If your parents hold a degree FROM ANYWHERE you are NOT a first generation student.</p>

<p>That's what AdOfficer is saying.</p>

<p>ses, yes I agree with you. I was surprised that you wrote in #3 because it sounds like you contradict to my post. I was too fast for replying in #13, I think those 2 are not contradictory, sorry.</p>

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Only not having college degree inside the USA is considered first generation which is consistent with what AdOfficer saying.

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<p>They would actually appear to be. We may agree, but your phrasing implies quite strongly the opposite.</p>