<p>I think i’ll get around 1800 for SAT and i’m international (does Penn expect me to get the same score range as US students?).</p>
<p>Just wondering what i will need for other factors so this score won’t look to bad to them.</p>
<p>read the forum, you'll get an idea of where you stand</p>
<p>I believe internationals actually have somewhat higher standards (except in english). What grades have you gotten and any significant awards or work experience?</p>
<p>Umm... not to be harsh, but that is going to "look bad to them".</p>
<p>ECS are: Hong Kong Award for young people (silver) - this includes 50+ hours com services, hike expedition (i'm team leader) and sports participation
HKSSF Hong Kong Secondary school regional champion soccer division 1 (SCHOOL TEAM)
HKSSF Division 2 field hockey (SCHOOL Team)</p>
<p>Organiser of school soccer tournament (Team leader)</p>
<p>Founder and president of school rock club</p>
<p>Author of articles on the Hamilton Institute
<a href="http://www.hamiltoninstitute.com/%5B/url%5D">http://www.hamiltoninstitute.com/</a></p>
<p>Helping to organise a school rock concert, still in early stage (not leader)</p>
<p>And i also have other stuff that i cant remember at the moment. They are the main ones.</p>
<p>Since i study the UK system, i think my US GPA is around 3.6 - 3.8</p>
<p>What was the break down of your SAT score? If it was like 800 math 500 reading 500 writing with a solid TOFEL score, maybe it will be fine. Then again, I hear people in Hong Kong speak English pretty well, so.... retake it. Study more and up those scores.</p>
<p>I speak fluent english and my toefl will definately not be a problem. I think my break down is around 640 Maths, 600 CR, 650 Writing and i want to go to Wharton damit. Business isn't all math, thats my philosophy. </p>
<p>other ECs include:
-School track finalist 100m and 1500m
-Running for school prefect (I think i have a good chance since i participate and run school ECs. Other students don't)</p>
<p>Work experience includes shadowing the steward manager for a week in the Marina Club. (he gave me a recommendation but he only said good things about me so i don't think i'm gonna send it)</p>
<p>why would you not send a rec that only says good things? Applicants from other countries often get confused I believe, recommendations in the United States are EXPECTED to be only good.</p>