<p>That would be a major step back for the University. It would reduce the OOS population from 35% to 5% or 10% at best. Furthermore, top 10% in some schools is not that impresive. I have known some students where not a single student got over a 26 on the ACT or over an 1800 on the SAT. On the other hand, at some schools, the top 25% are excellent. </p>
<p>The proposal of the top 10% would be too simplistic and flawed if you ask me.</p>
<p>I totally agree. I didn't know that Texas did it and now I don't understand how they manage it. Well, I don't live in MI so I really don't care but I believe that 10% system is absolutely ridiculous.</p>
<p>It depends on how it's implemented. If U-M is allowed to keep the 65:35 ratio for OOS, it might not affect the student quality that much. Like in California, the top 4% is only guaranteed admission to one of the UCs ... the individual campus still gets to pick which one to admit. In Texas, qualified students get to pick which campus to enroll.</p>
<p>In any case, I agree with y'all that the 10% rule is a ridiculous way to substitute for affirmative action.</p>
<p>California and Texas have HUGE populations. Michigan is dwindling. Let's be realistic. I'm sure the vast majority of Michigan students from instate are leaving after graduation. I wish lawmakers would concentrate on trying to keep their constituency from leaving altogether. Why worry about sending the top 10% to a state school when they're going to leave anyway. I'd rather see more OOS students go to Michigan, not less. At least most of them pay their way through without any "discounts."</p>
<p>i agree....just looking at the top 10% of my high school which is considered very decent by michigan (admissions counselor from umich said)...i am sure a lot of those kids would not succeed at umich, nor do many of them deserve to go there.....we dont have weighted gpas so much of the "top 10%" has never taken an AP/honors course, and a few load their schedules with classes like yearbook/school store/student council etc...</p>
<p>theres just no way of standardizing this because grading systems are so different among different school districts, and umich is going to have kids who have a 23 ACT but have a 4.0 , and these kids are in no way going to be able to compete with the kids who actually belong there...</p>
<p>but i wouldnt be that surprised if this actually happened because of the volume of applications umich is receiving ...it might just be easier</p>
<p>Unlike Texas, the proposal doesn't guarantee any top 10% Michigan students access to the U of M, just a seat at one of the 15 public universities in Michigan. In California, students with 23 ACT and 4.0 GPA are admitted to the lower UCs like Riverside or Santa Cruz, not UCB or UCLA.</p>
<p>I agree with rjkofnove, with the dwindling economy in the state, Michigan needs to attract more OOS studnets, not less. One of the objectives of attracting talented OOS students is the hope that some of them may stay after graduation and help enrich the local economy and community.</p>
<p>I hope they do it, I'm at University of Miami for undergrad but still a Michigan resident so I'll be applying there for dental school! I'll take all the help I can get :)</p>
<p>I doubt if it will cover grad school.</p>
<p>"umich is going to have kids who have a 23 ACT but have a 4.0 , and these kids are in no way going to be able to compete with the kids who actually belong there..."</p>
<p>not true. they are guaranteed to go to a public university in michigan, not necessarily umich. they might end up at michigan state, western, central, eastern, northern, etc etc</p>
<p>i still think it's a flawed idea though.</p>
<p>Not sure they can get into MSU anymore with a 23 act.</p>
<p>What a moronic proposal..that would hurt the prestige of UM..a lot. I sometimes dream of UM becoming a private institution as I honestly think the state of Michigan has become a burden for this great institution. This school's majority should be talented OOS/International students..not some unqualified 'top 10%' students from some buttf*** school in Michigan.</p>
<p>Novi, the mid 50% ACT at MSU is 22-27. I think a student with a 23 on the ACT has a shot of getting into MSU.</p>
<p>alexandre i think you meant ACT not SAT</p>
<p>No, I meant SAT. ;) Hehe! Ok, so I corrected my error.</p>
<p>My point being Alexandre is that State is much harder to get into compared to a few years ago. Of course it's not nearly as difficult to enter as U-M. I assume with a 23 ACT they would need a pretty high GPA though.</p>