<p>i HEARD that this year they're letting less legacies in... plus, bush said legacy admitting is unfair (weird... he was one)</p>
<p>You have to sleep with an admissions counselor. You also have to know how to SPELL. (My mom is an admissions counselor--yep, you guessed it--my father was a business major, class of '92!)</p>
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Hey! Don't diss those of us who can't spell. ;)</p>
<p>Just kidding. I usually look up words I don't know how to spell. Some people on here make really horrible mistakes, though, that make me want to vomit.</p>
<p>legacies frustrate me. so does affirmative action in some cases-i think economic status, and not race, should determine whether special preference is given. i mean if oprah had a kid, he'd get AA. i do realize i might probably be opening up a can of worms here (ugh i hate that expression; it makes me think of those trick cans where worms pop out) but i've grown very frustrated and needed to vent. now lets go back to talking about girls who get shot on buses.</p>
<p>Agree about Affirmative action one.</p>
<p>Would you guys like to go to a school that was entirely Asian kids? </p>
<p>Personally, I would hate to be in a learning environment filled with nothing but wealthy white and Asian people. I think it would be seriously crippling.</p>
<p>its all a paradox really, most of the ORMs (including myself I admit) complain about affirmative action on the grounds that students we feel aren't as qualified are getting in and we are not, but if you do actually get in, you want some diversity. also, i think you would make a lotof enemies at college if you're vocally complaining about aa. I there should be a "CC Law" stating that every thread eventually turns into a discussion about aa, let's move on from here...that girl who got shot on the bus...</p>
<p>Gavroche--There's nothing wrong with Asian kids so don't make offensive blanket statements. To your main point, though, that's a big mistake, automatically equating race with socioeconomic status. I agree that diversity is a wonderful thing, but diversity of views and personalities. Who cares about diversity of what people look like (skin color)? A poor white kid has probably gone through a lot more and could contribute much more to the diversity of a college than a rich black kid, to speak generally. What's the big deal about enforcing diversity just of skin color?</p>
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<p>Godwin's Law for CC!</p>
<p>"Gavroche--There's nothing wrong with Asian kids so don't make offensive blanket statements. To your main point, though, that's a big mistake, automatically equating race with socioeconomic status. I agree that diversity is a wonderful thing, but diversity of views and personalities. Who cares about diversity of what people look like (skin color)? A poor white kid has probably gone through a lot more and could contribute much more to the diversity of a college than a rich black kid, to speak generally. What's the big deal about enforcing diversity just of skin color?"</p>
<p>I think there should be a whole lot of diversity beyond skin color. I think most colleges agree. I still think that, without affirmative action, the vast majority of Harvard students would be wealthy Asian or white kids.</p>
<p>Diversity is great, sure, but certain types are more valid than others. Personally, I don't see what's the big deal about the racial composition of the class. Would you rather a bunch of priviliged rich kids of mixed race, or a bunch of white kids, some rich and some not-so-rich?</p>
<p>I think both would be horrid and not at all conducive to a healthy, stimulating learning environment.</p>
<p>so a "healthy" learning environment can only be possible with people with different skin colors, not people who necessarily think differently?</p>
<p>I think different cultural backgrounds are extremely important for a healthy learning environment, yes.</p>
<p>And I didn't make blanket statements nor did I insult Asian kids. Without affirmative action, a massive chunk of the student population at nearly every elite school would be Asian. It is nothing against Asians, but I would like a bit more racial diversity than a college with a 60% Asian student body could provide me with.</p>
<p>so basically, you're saying that you embrace the notion of "diversity," but only if white kids still are the majority? I don't see why 60% Asian kids is any less conducive to a learning environment than the >60% white kids that go to a college.</p>
<p>Whoah, whoah? Asians are considered URMs. Don't you mean, gavroche, that if not for AA, then a overwhelming majority of applicants would be white...?</p>
<p>and lets not even go into the arguement of "well blacks and Latinos have been discriminated against so they should be given reparations via affirmative action. This is extremely hypocritical because Asians, as well as some whites, such as Catholics and the Irish have also faced discrimination. And I haven't even started with the Jews.</p>
<p>LOL. Asians are not considered URMs. Therein lies the tragedy of the Asian race in college admissions. When convenient, they are counted with all the other minorities (Harvard's booklet on minority recruitment boasts a 40% minority student body). Yet they are cast aside in those instances when minorities are given aid.</p>
<p>In fact, when placed on a numerical scale, if you claim to be Asian American on your Harvard ap, you will have a HARDER time being accepted than a white kid. I swear I read some stats on this, I'm trying to find them.</p>