<p>Going from As to Bs?
Bs and a C?
Cs?</p>
<p>Police officer assaults?
Meth dealing?
Ponzi schemes?
War crimes?</p>
<p>But seriously, what do grades have to drop to? Its not like I want to push the line, just wondering. Personal accounts from non-rescinded current Harvard students would be good. </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I would also like to know! Would two letter drops be fine? lol</p>
<p>i failed a test today lol</p>
<p>I’m not an expert, but everything I’ve read suggests that it would require a very serious infraction to force the college to rescind your offer. It would have to be so blatantly contrary to the reasons for your acceptance that they would have no choice but to reject you. Consider from the college’s perspective: if they say you are good enough to go there, they better have an extraordinary reason for changing their mind; I could predict all sorts of problems otherwise.</p>
<p>So breaking the law would probably be valid, but a minor grade drop, most likely not.</p>
<p>how about going from AAAAB to BBBCC ??</p>
<p>Thats pretty bad. I think one C would be pushing it. I mean, thats a 2.6 GPA average, which is pretty low for the Ivies.</p>
<p>BBBCC might get you a concerned letter and a request for an explanation. You’ll have to write them an apologetic letter, but you’ll still get to attend in the fall. If you get an F in an academic class, or (God forbid) fail to graduate on time, then you need to worry. Ditto if you commit a serious crime. Just don’t do it. The single worst kiss of death is if Harvard discovers any dishonesty on your part (like lying on your application). Luckily, that is rare.</p>
<p>My Trimester grades might go from:</p>
<p>Tri 1: A A B+ B A-
Tri2: A A A A- A-
Tri 3: A B A B B C</p>
<p>Would that be a big deal?</p>
<p>Has anyone ever heard of someone getting an admission rescinded for being kicked out of the NHS? (for not having enough service hours?) I haven’t been yet, but it’s a concern.</p>
<p>bump please on my question.</p>
<p>I doubt it boots. How would they even know?</p>
<p>I don’t think NHS is a prerequisite for Harvard admission. They are not looking to see if you’re in or out. Don’t worry about it-but you could get your service hours. Why not? I know several current Harvard students who proudly resigned NHS.</p>
<p>yah I don’t think the NHS would matter. bump on my question a few posts up please?</p>
<p>Ace2209: I am not a Harvard student, yet if you’re so eager for an opinion - common sense is telling me that it should hardly make a difference. I know couple of Columbia admits whose grades dropped similarly and the school could care less. But then again, that’s not direct evidence, so if you decide to be so nervous about it, call admission office.</p>
<p>Hanna: out of curiosity, have you heard about any of such cases (where Harvard would discover dishonesty on your app)? What did the students make up? And how would that happen, anyway? Does anyone look at your application ever again after matriculation?</p>
<p>From the reply card:</p>
<p>Harvard College reserves the right to withdraw an offer of admission in the the following conditions: a) if you fail to graduate and receive a diploma by the end of the current school year; b) if you show a significant drop in your academic performance between now and your graduation from school; c) if you engage or have engaged in behavior that brings into question your honesty, maturity or moral character; d) in the event any part of your application contains misrepresentations; or e) if you are holding beyond May 1 a place in the freshman class of more that one college. (if you are on a waiting list at another college and are later accepted and decide to attend that college, we expect you to let us know immediately of your change in plans.)</p>
<p>Boots - I am sure that your being part of NHS is not what got you accepted to Harvard. As long as your reason for being removed from the NHS is not from the above revocation reasons, then I would expect that you are fine.</p>
<p>As for grade slippage like those stated above, I would expect that you would be contacted first and you may need to explain yourself. I have read a number of posts on various forums that would imply that the slippage needs to be significant to be rescinded but also be sure to have thought your explanation of the cause. I also agree with LadyChance - call or at least speak to you HS GC. I’m sure they will have an opinion and may be able to help.</p>
<p>LadyChance - I would expect that applications are kept around for some period of time after matriculation. In that way, should Harvard need to use application falsification as a reason for removing a student, they have the files and the proof. I know that every now and then you hear the crazy story about some accepted student to some school who managed to fake out the admissions staff. Once this was determined, sometimes years into the schooling, the student was removed. I wish I could remember some of the stories I heard over the years and what colleges were involved but if they make the news they are pretty wild.</p>
<p>Cheating on an exam or paper might do it.</p>
<p>I will note that I have seen many, many threads like this, and hardly ever did anyone have an example of somebody who was actually rescinded (from any school, not just Harvard). I’ve read a few examples of people who got letters admonishing them about their grades. I’ve got to think that it just doesn’t happen that often, and that it probably doesn’t happen for typical senioritis-induced grade drops.</p>
<p>At the first applicant info session we attended at Harvard in Feb of my sister’s junior year (last year) this question came up. The answer was pretty much what was posted above – the text in the reply card. When asked for examples, the admissions person said that any offense that gets you expelled from school may likely be cause, depending on the circumstances. Any incident of cheating, plagiarizing, etc that comes to light would also be grounds, even if the incident happened in the past but was not reported at time of application. Any blatant lies on your app (“Football team captain 1,2,3,4” when you’ve never been on a field; “Class President” when nobody ever heard of you at your HS) could be grounds. He also said that getting arrested (not convicted, he said arrested, although he may have meant convicted) for any drug-related offense is grounds. When asked how many students they have to rescind a year, he said it is low, but it can be as many as 3, 4 or 5 each year who get rescinded. They also said that they don’t pursue any shenanigans that have to do with FAFSA or financial aid (suspected unreported assets; lying about home equity); they simply notify the proper authorities or agencies since the applicant has at that point lied on a form submitted to the federal government. Of course, if that plays out it may also result in a rescind.</p>
<p>He never talked about grades (least, not that I recall) so I suspect there are no hard and fast rules and may be handled on a case by case basis. The only academic reason he gave for a rescind was the case where an applicant says they plan to take, say, 3 AP courses in their final semester, and then after applying to Harvard they dump some honors and AP classes for an easier schedule. It is possible that one or more of the rescinds per year could be for grades, but no details provided.</p>
<p>Oh and he said they continue to audt the applications even after acceptance and throughout the summer – they have lines of communication into most or many HS’s and they will sometimes spot check things like awards and honors and EC’s that applicants claim on their applications. They do this more to get an idea of how to better structure the application to avoid misinformation or misunderstandings of what info to provide, but he said sometimes this can uncover an actionable offense.</p>
<p>So bottom line is, if you told the truth on your application, and you have not broken any school or federal laws, and you continued to take whatever courses you projected on your app, then you can probably rest easy. Otherwise, it’s community college time for you!</p>
<p>I would just note how many “coulds” and “can bes” were in that speech.</p>
<p>^ Right. I thought that was clear, but may bear pointing out. This is clearly not a deterministic science, it’s fluid and situational. I told it just like it got told to us. Some of it is absolute (cheating/plagiarism) and some of it is open-ended (lying about EC’s). In fact, the whole admissions process is one of “coulds” and “can bes”. Why should the rescind process be any different?</p>