<p>Everyone did give their opinions on the situation. Just because they aren’t the opinions that you wanted to hear does not mean they are invalid or that they don’t come from real experiences of being in the same situation. To essentially every response, you gave the same response: that they wouldn’t have given you hope for being hired in the future if they didn’t think you had a good shot. That kind of makes it sounds like you think you are right and just want people to agree with you, possibly because you are worried about getting a job and you want turning down the other job to be the right decision.</p>
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<p>makes it seem like you want reassurance, sympathy, and support, not just everyone’s honest opinions and advice. They’re not being pessimistic–they’re being realistic. It’s important to consider the worst case scenario and to prepare for it (especially when it’s concerning a job, which is often a case where you don’t have the luxury to wait for your dream job), and the posters are probably bringing it up because it doesn’t sound like you are considering it.</p>
<p>No one can say whether or not you will get a job offer. All people can say is that in their experience, this situation does not mean that you will definitely get the job, and it’s always better to have options, rather than putting all of your hope into this one job. I’m glad you’re hopeful, and I do hope you get this job. But still, I would ALWAYS recommend that people have a plan B in case things don’t work out. It just makes good sense.</p>
<p>OP, why would you assume I am male? I am a female working in tech… who has been through the hiring cycle a ton of times. You said you turned down another offer. You haven’t actually said how much you really need to get a job. If you literally don’t really care if you find work, then what you are doing makes some sense. If you have student loans to pay or your parents are bugging you to get a job and move out, it doesn’t.</p>
<p>Regarding your logic on whether you have a better or worse chance if the passed you over again, I think there is zero evidence that is true. If they found someone better the first time… means they may very well the next time. Or the next job they have might not be the same job… so might not be as appealing.</p>
<p>One more thing I would say is that no job is a “dream job”. When you get into it, you likely will find it is pretty much like any other job. That is one reason I rarely hold out for a specific company or role in my business. What seems great on paper can really be lousy when you get into it. And what seems “meh” on paper can turn out to be the most fun you can have in an office and not get fired for it. An awful lot depends on the boss – so if they call and offer you a job, and if you haven’t met your potential immediate boss, ask to do so. They won’t take the offer back while you do that.</p>
<p>I still think you posted to get people to tell you what you want to hear, though. The adult world isn’t really like that – when you ask advice, you will mostly get what people really think, not just something to make you feel better.</p>
<p>This is not always the case, and you are assuming that he was truly honest with your feedback. You are compared to the applicant pool at the time of hiring. You may have been a good applicant compared with your peers the first time, but if they have stronger applicants in this pool then your odds could decrease. Or, vice versa - you may be the very best applicant this time around instead of just good the first time. Also, situations change and they may be looking for different qualities if the ones they originally sought didn’t work out for them the way they hoped. There are so many factors that come in to play in the hiring process. The hiring manager could leave the company and they have a new one who hasn’t met you, or other departmental changes could occur that affects what they are looking for. It is great to be optimistic, but always, always keep searching hard and do not turn down an offer for a “maybe.”</p>
<p>Do not keep calling or otherwise contacting them. I have had favorable candidates contact me so often that I took them off the list as they came off desperate and did not follow what I was telling them (that <em>we</em> would contact <em>them</em> if we were interested, which is the case for most companies). There are times when I genuinely do forget to respond to an email or phone call, but most of the time if I don’t respond then it is because I am either not finished in the hiring/decision making process or I am not interested in that candidate. And there is nothing worse than a candidate continuously calling.</p>
<p>You asked a question and got honest, realistic feedback that isn’t what you were hoping to read… it is what it is. </p>
<p>You are currently being reconsidered, and that’s great, but from the sounds of it, it seems like you have stopped applying to other jobs and have all of your hopes set on THIS job. If so, you are a fool: when you get passed over this time, you will be back to square one. </p>
<p>Nobody is telling you not to be optimistic… if you are being considered for a job, you obviously have a chance of getting it. What everyone is telling you is that you shouldn’t expect to GET the job, and you should have plenty of backup plans in the works. When job hunting, you should be scouring openings and applying to new jobs all the way until you accept an offer in writing. Before then, nothing is certain. </p>
<p>Your goal should always be to have competing offers, since then you have leverage and can choose the company that fits best for you while hopefully being able to negotiate better terms. When you are just waiting for your top choice, you are only hurting yourself - even if you get an offer, what if they lowball you on salary? Are you really willing to sacrifice thousands of dollars just because you are optimistic?</p>
An awful lot depends on the boss – so if they call and offer you a job, and if you haven’t met your potential immediate boss, ask to do so. They won’t take the offer back while you do that.</p>